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Star ( Star@sopuli.xyz )  to Privacy@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

Chat Apps, Government Ties, and Transparency – Threema

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Chat Apps, Government Ties, and Transparency – Threema

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Star ( Star@sopuli.xyz )  to Privacy@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago
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Chat Apps, Government Ties, and Transparency
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Over the past days, two popular chat services have accused each other of having undisclosed government ties. According to Signal president Meredith Whittaker, Telegram is not only “notoriously insecure” but also “routinely cooperates with governments behind the scenes.” Telegram founder Pavel Durov, on the other hand, claims that “the US government spent $3M to build Signal’s encryption” and Signal’s current leaders are “activists used by the US state department for regime change abroad.”
  • The Doctor ( drwho@beehaw.org ) 
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    It’s a Google hosted service, which is arguably worse because they may as well be a nation-state unto themselves.

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      Wasn’t Amazon involved here as well? It is another “nation-state”.

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        I do not think so, no. However, Amazon is certainly big enough to be un-humorously compared to nation-states as well.

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          I remembered it as being AWS. Checked their blog, and the article about their spending mentions renting space in AWS and Azure too, indeed.

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      And the largest homeserver, matrix.org, is MITM’d by Crimeflare.

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        Fuck matrix.org, just selfhost.

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          Any homeserver that federates (even indirectly) with matrix.org will still have practically all the same data shared with it, just not your password.

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            What passwords where?

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              The password used to login to the homeserver

        • The Doctor ( drwho@beehaw.org ) 
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          Doable, but a huge pain in the ass because of conflicts in the protocol. I spent about a year trying to suss them out and come up with a fix but never figured it out.

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