cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17956865

‘It is time for this war to end,’ Harris tells Netanyahu; ‘I will not be silent’ on Palestinian suffering

  • When I read the article it didn’t seem like all, it was the violent ones and the ones who were tagging about Hamas on near/on government property (which like, kinda whatever to that one).

    In that same article she condemned Hamas while talking about the lives of Gazans. I feel like people have been talking about the difference between Gaza and Hamas here on Lemmy, but when it’s talked about by VP/Presidential Candidate it’s suddenly not possible to have that be distinguished?

    The only thing that she’s missing here is our perspective, which overall seems to come down to, “yes the actions of Hamas are abhorrent and terroristic, however they also are doing so somewhat out of necessity due to the Israeli state working so hard to kill them. That doesn’t make the actions of Hamas okay, it simply makes the citizens of Palestine stuck between two organizations.” Hence our support for Palestine, because what are they going to do? It’s death either direction, and at least one is wanting to give them statehood and the other wants them extinct.

    She is partway there. She has recognized a difference between Gaza and Hamas, she has condemned the death put forth by both Hamas and Israel, while also speaking out against violent protesters and flag burners. Obviously, she is missing the fact that Israel wants Palestine the way Russia wants Ukraine the way China wants Taiwan. And that U.S. citizens are against that. Hence our protests.

    So frustrating.

      • And the same was said towards violent protesters throughout 2016. Almost like when violence and destruction of public property is disliked by politicians and they say something about it! It’s bullshit for sure, because the “perfect” protest is not something that will always happen. It must be composed of “perfectly polite people doing and saying perfectly perfectly polite things” which is just not going to happen.

        Where I grew up our protests weren’t antagonized as much (just by cops) but where I moved the cops are legitimately Nazis. Here we’ve had bricks thrown at us, media spin us as Antifa being suppressed by tear gas when we protest the literal Nazi rally - I’m on the go but I can post the article in an edit later. So tell me, how can we be perfectly peaceful when our peaceful protests are met with violence. Even if we stood still and were attacked without defending ourselves it would probably still be our fault for having started a peaceful protest.