Socialist countries do uphold that, though, to the extent physically possible. Soviet progressivism was documented quite well in Albert Syzmanski’s Human Rights in the Soviet Union. Are you just opposing revolution, because overthrowing the capitalists, fascists, slavers and tsarists requires infringing on their rights? In that case, certainly you’re upholding the systems that allow them to destroy human dignity each and every day?
I didnt oppose the socialism in the real world in the first place. I said i dont like some of them in the way they have behaved. They could behave differently, and then I would like them. They can reform and be better. But until they do, id rather not model other new things on them. And if a country gives kids free ice cream but shoots people every day, I can like that they give out free ice cream and hate the violence.
You’ve been vague and cagey, though. Nobody is saying that you have to support every single action imperfect countries take. How could socialist countries behave differently to the point that you would like them?
This is social media, not a presidential debate stage. And all I started with was reassuring a fellow anarch communist that’s its okay to want nice things. Im done playing 20 questions.
Human dignity for every single person is at the heart of my politics. If a nation is not holding up to that, then we can dream better.
Socialist countries do uphold that, though, to the extent physically possible. Soviet progressivism was documented quite well in Albert Syzmanski’s Human Rights in the Soviet Union. Are you just opposing revolution, because overthrowing the capitalists, fascists, slavers and tsarists requires infringing on their rights? In that case, certainly you’re upholding the systems that allow them to destroy human dignity each and every day?
No I am not.
So then what materially needs to be different for you to support socialism in real life over opposing it?
I didnt oppose the socialism in the real world in the first place. I said i dont like some of them in the way they have behaved. They could behave differently, and then I would like them. They can reform and be better. But until they do, id rather not model other new things on them. And if a country gives kids free ice cream but shoots people every day, I can like that they give out free ice cream and hate the violence.
You’ve been vague and cagey, though. Nobody is saying that you have to support every single action imperfect countries take. How could socialist countries behave differently to the point that you would like them?
This is social media, not a presidential debate stage. And all I started with was reassuring a fellow anarch communist that’s its okay to want nice things. Im done playing 20 questions.
Everyone wants better, my issue is with letting perfect ideals be the enemy of real good.
This might just be the most privileged thing I have ever read in my life
You cannot convince me to take you seriously after that.
No, of course not. Coddled westerners will never listen to anyone who challenges their privilege