I appreciate your point, however - if you wish for this series of communities to succeed, it needs to be welcoming to newcomers. And one of the ways of doing that is allowing for a continuation of conversations that were on the source communities - including, “Oh, we’re getting out”, “Why it’s so bad”, “Where do we go to”, “How do we make the new community look/feel like I’m used to”, etc. etc.
I’m happy to see this because it means that a corrupt and non-people-focussed environment is losing members. Like anything, it will pass, but please don’t push people away by making them feel unwelcome.
That’s fair enough. I didn’t read it as “initiating a discussion”, more “get off my lawn”. That may, however, be me - I’m coming off my meds and it’s making me grumpy.
No, it was absolutely “get off my lawn.” They didn’t say let’s talk about it. They just said it needed to stop. They didn’t introduce it as an opinion. They wrote it as something that needs to happen. If they wanted to start a discussion, they’re terrible at communication and they’re going to make people feel unwelcome with their approach to communication.
It’s easy. Introduce opinions as opinions. Not the way you did it. You didn’t say “I feel…” or “let’s discuss XYZ”. You said “can this stop? It is like yada yada yada.” Not, “in my opinion.”. You stated it as fact. It’s easy to know how something will be perceived if you think about it from any other perspective than your own and just know the definition of words and how to communicate. And your first and immediate defense wasn’t “let’s discuss” it was about your right to complain. That’s quite possibly the weakest defense of any possible stance that anyone is capable of making. Your go-to defense was that it simply wasn’t illegal to say it. That’s absolutely weak.
I appreciate your point, however - if you wish for this series of communities to succeed, it needs to be welcoming to newcomers. And one of the ways of doing that is allowing for a continuation of conversations that were on the source communities - including, “Oh, we’re getting out”, “Why it’s so bad”, “Where do we go to”, “How do we make the new community look/feel like I’m used to”, etc. etc.
I’m happy to see this because it means that a corrupt and non-people-focussed environment is losing members. Like anything, it will pass, but please don’t push people away by making them feel unwelcome.
I see your point, but you could be making me feel unwelcome (you’re not).
I was asking a question based on the content I want to see. I am not saying people can’t do this or that. I’m just initiating a discussion.
Whether people agree with me or not is fine. I respect that other people have other opinions.
That’s fair enough. I didn’t read it as “initiating a discussion”, more “get off my lawn”. That may, however, be me - I’m coming off my meds and it’s making me grumpy.
No, it was absolutely “get off my lawn.” They didn’t say let’s talk about it. They just said it needed to stop. They didn’t introduce it as an opinion. They wrote it as something that needs to happen. If they wanted to start a discussion, they’re terrible at communication and they’re going to make people feel unwelcome with their approach to communication.
Aww I’m sorry to hear that and I hope things get better.
It’s hard to say how things will be perceived, and it’s difficult to gauge tone in peoples text.
It’s easy. Introduce opinions as opinions. Not the way you did it. You didn’t say “I feel…” or “let’s discuss XYZ”. You said “can this stop? It is like yada yada yada.” Not, “in my opinion.”. You stated it as fact. It’s easy to know how something will be perceived if you think about it from any other perspective than your own and just know the definition of words and how to communicate. And your first and immediate defense wasn’t “let’s discuss” it was about your right to complain. That’s quite possibly the weakest defense of any possible stance that anyone is capable of making. Your go-to defense was that it simply wasn’t illegal to say it. That’s absolutely weak.
This sounds like a You issue. You interpreted my meaning incorrectly.
Can is a perfectly acceptable way of asking a question and not a demand.