Introversion ( @Introversion@kbin.social ) 19•7 months agoI doubt it. Polls conducted this early aren’t worth much. People who tend to vote for Democrats may wish for a younger candidate than Biden, but when confronted in the voting booth with a choice of fascism or Biden, most will choose Biden.
wrath_of_grunge ( @wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social ) 14•7 months agoThat same line of thinking got him in the first time.
AnonTwo ( @AnonTwo@kbin.social ) 10•7 months agoTo be fair nobody thought he would have fascist policies in 2016. Just that he was dumb and incompetent.
2d4_bears ( @2d4_bears@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 6•7 months agoA lot of folks thought he would push fascist policies, though? He was notable for his nativist and protectionist rhetoric on the campaign trail. The audacity of it all is what got him all that free print and airtime.
Perfide ( @Perfide@reddthat.com ) 3•7 months agoThis is blatantly not true. It’s what won him the election.
Introversion ( @Introversion@kbin.social ) 4•7 months agoI’m not suggesting people get complacent. We gotta vote like our democracy depends on preventing another Trump term, because it does.
And gloom & doom about how Trump is polling or Biden is polling, a year in advance of the election, can make people give up and not vote.
Just pointing out that polls aren’t very reliable. “Red Wave 2022” back in 2021, remember?
Spacehooks ( @Spacehooks@reddthat.com ) English2•7 months agoYeah but then people thought they were punishing the DNC then by not voting or going third-party. Those people either learned the DNC is pos but better than trump or still vote third-party.
livus ( @livus@kbin.social ) 15•7 months agoProbably. I don’t follow US politics closely, but it does feel like we’re in the darkest timeline.
Besides, he kind of goatse-d the overton window. Nothing would surprise me now that it’s already happened once.
kent_eh ( @kent_eh@lemmy.ca ) English4•7 months agoBesides, he kind of goatse-d the overton window.
There’s an image I’ll have trouble getting out if my head.
BruceTwarzen ( @BruceTwarzen@kbin.social ) 10•7 months agoProbably. It’s america after all
empireOfLove ( @empireOfLove@lemmy.one ) English8•7 months agoHe doesn’t have a chance in the popular vote. He already lost it once (twice, technically). And with how polarizing he’s become, only the more extreme fringe actors are outright supporting him, and those with real money want a “safe” candidate that allows them to keep grifting behind the scenes without causing such a big ruckus. He’ll lose a lot of big donor support, and people are growing tired of the constant outrage news that he generates.
We’ve seen how he performs a symphony of a clusterfuck in a 4 year term, and not even the GOP itself is jumping right at the idea of embracing another 4 years of that struggle- they’re waffling at the idea, and a lot of the extremist upstarts that got a foothold under Trump now want to knock him out of it so they can have their own moment of glory. But Trump was a one-time shot. He was THE face of “The Big Businessman, doing a Business” that appealed to the older, more bootstrapy kind of crowd that still unfortunately dominates the actively voting public. All the younger extremists are trying to parrot him and can’t quite get away with the same level of “crazy” energy without looking actually crazy, since they don’t have the gold-plated toilet of “American Success” to back them up.But regardless of that, will every hard-right extremist fight tooth and nail to ensure he still wins, including but not limited to high treason, rushed gerrrymandering, voter intimidation (or outright slaughter) and the active dismantling of every aspect of democracy down to the local voter box level? You bet your ass they’re gonna try here.
Rocky60 ( @Rocky60@lemm.ee ) 7•7 months agoI’m going to say no. The loudest people don’t always seem to make it to the polls. Here in Illinois, we heard lots of hate for Pritzker. Anti JB signs everywhere. Only 58% turned out to vote and Pritzker was declared the winner within hours of the polls opening
JimmyBigSausage ( @JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee ) 5•7 months agoNo Biden is set to carry it all, despite what the media wants you to think (so they can get outrage clicks on their websites-looking at you CNN)
Stock market is at record heights, unemployment is way down since the cheese turd was in office. The Drumpfers are definitely loud but their prison bait leader is going to lead them all to another Jonestown disaster. Believe it or not, I think the Supreme Court will be the ones that end the Era of MAGAts.
athos77 ( @athos77@kbin.social ) 6•7 months agoThe stock market is a mood ring for rich people, not anything to do with everyday Americans and everyday Americans are struggling more with food and rent, even car prices have skyrocketed. The Saudis and a bunch of other oil producing countries would really like to have their good buddy back in office and they’ve already said they plan to hike gas prices next summer to try to influence people away from Biden; his support for Israel is only going to exacerbate the situation. And Russia will spend lots of money to get their Russian puppet back in office, and to get more Russian puppets into Congress - not just for the chance to break the US, but also to break NATO, damage the UN and the EU, and finalize their Ukrainian land grab.
Radicalized ( @Radicalized@lemmy.one ) 1•7 months agoKind of hoping Russia gets what they want and the US Balkanizes. It wouldn’t make the world a safer place but it would make me feel a little better temporarily. Then we can all finally stop talking about it and move on to the next topic.
etchinghillside ( @etchinghillside@reddthat.com ) 5•7 months agoI’m hesitant to laugh it off and say “there’s no way”.
Troy ( @troyunrau@lemmy.ca ) 2•7 months agoYeah, that was me in 2016. Colour me surprised
graycube ( @graycube@kbin.social ) 4•7 months agoThere is a strong movement to hold a constitutional convention before the next election. It is backed by a right wing group called ALEC. They think they have a loophole to make it happen and the new speaker of the house backs the idea. I think if they had a wider majority it would already be happening. They will rewrite the rules to ensure a hard right anti-civil rights candidate wins.
angstylittlecatboy ( @angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com ) English4•7 months agoI think it’s a coin flip. You could point to ten reasons it’s “obvious” Trump will win and I could give you ten reasons it’s “obvious” he won’t.
IHeartBadCode ( @IHeartBadCode@kbin.social ) 3•7 months agoI think it’s a bit early to make any kind of educated speculation and wild speculation just isn’t really all that helpful for anyone.
ULS ( @ULS@lemmy.ml ) 3•7 months agoYeah. I do think he will. Most people I know are pro Trump and have been consistently and vocally since last election.
HikingVet ( @HikingVet@lemmy.ca ) 17•7 months agoYou need to meet new people.
Octospider ( @Octospider@lemmy.one ) English2•6 months agoNever underestimate the stupidity of voters.
pan_troglodytes ( @pan_troglodytes@programming.dev ) English1•7 months agoconsidering that he doesnt have the nomination, no. he may not get the nomination. if he does? oh yeah.