These TVs can capture and identify 7,200 images per hour, or approximately two every second. The data is then used for content recommendations and ad targeting, which is a huge business; advertisers spent an estimated $18.6 billion on smart TV ads in 2022, according to market research firm eMarketer.
- ioslife ( @ioslife@lemmy.sdf.org ) 55•10 months ago
Obviously
- ivanafterall ( @ivanafterall@kbin.social ) 18•10 months ago
Honestly the least I’d expect of a smart TV.
- Metal Zealot ( @Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml ) 19•10 months ago
I have my old (stupid) tv from like 2013, works perfectly fine. No apps, no firmware, no ads, no tracking. Never felt the need to buy a smart tv, but I’m afraid it’d be near impossible to find a new one that isn’t nowadays I’d mine broke down.
- Max-P ( @Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me ) 7•10 months ago
This is the only reason I have a smart TV. I didn’t want one, in fact it prompted me to make an SSID and VLAN just for it, then applied a bunch of DNS blocks. Unfortunately my old 2012 TV wasn’t worth shipping across the country and the image was getting pretty dim and it had started developing dead pixels.
If you want anything above 1080p that’s a dumb TV you have to go commercial like the hospitality market and they charge you way more for it. And they won’t even sell it to you without a corporate account in most places.
The only way to get 4K and HDR without the smarts as a consumer is to buy a giant gaming monitor… and those too ask for quite a premium, because gamers.
- wincing_nucleus073 ( @wincing_nucleus073@lemm.ee ) 15•10 months ago
laughs in crtv and dvd player
- The Doctor ( @drwho@beehaw.org ) English11•10 months ago
Next up: Televisions that don’t have off switches and never go to sleep.
- treadful ( @treadful@lemmy.zip ) English8•10 months ago
We could call them telescreens maybe
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English5•10 months ago
They could have a built in alarm clock that starts your day with a mandatory workout and the latest news telling us what to believe
- toastal ( @toastal@lemmy.ml ) English4•10 months ago
Ones with voice activation & stuff do this already. TVs will pull a lot of power when ‘off’ since they’re not off.
- The Doctor ( @drwho@beehaw.org ) English2•10 months ago
Yup. A lot of folks don’t seem to understand that this is the case, though.
Pretty soon, there won’t even be soft-off switches anymore.
- Fly4aShyGuy ( @Fly4aShyGuy@lemmy.one ) 1•10 months ago
Check this out: https://www.freetelly.com/
This thing gives me serious 1984 vibes. I hadn’t read the book when I first heard of this, but I now realize the name is pretty much and open play on the tellyscreens in the book. Reminds me of the black mirror episode where you have to pay to stop watching.
Since I didn’t comment elsewhere on the thread, my plan of attack for now is usually older TVs (even just a few years old are still really good quality), even if they are smart but not ever connected. Apple TVs on each one, also buy the 2-3 year old version of this used for about $40-$50 not any more then I used to spend buying Roku sticks. Gives me a good enough balance for now, and before Apple haters pile on, yes it’s not perfect, but there have been some studies showing these are some of the best behaved streaming devices. More importantly than what the streaming device is, I have the ability to chuck them and add a PC or whatever else without having to replace the actual TV.
- rockandsock ( @rockandsock@lemm.ee ) 10•10 months ago
It’ll never tell anyone because it’ll never be hooked up to the internet.
- toastal ( @toastal@lemmy.ml ) English1•10 months ago
I had read a story once that if I recall correctly, one manufacturer would send the signal back thru the coax cable to the cable box just in case to make sure your data was captured somehow.
- onlinepersona ( @onlinepersona@programming.dev ) English9•10 months ago
My smart TV is blocked from the internet. It doesn’t know shit.
- ErwinLottemann ( @ErwinLottemann@feddit.de ) 5•10 months ago
oh it knows. it just can’t tell anyone!
- frustratedphagocytosis ( @frustratedphagocytosis@kbin.social ) 8•10 months ago
I leave the TV on all day for the cats, I’m sure they’re getting lots of useful data while they sleep in front of MASH reruns
- ExLisper ( @ExLisper@linux.community ) English7•10 months ago
Mine connects through pihole with all LG domains blocked. I’m not getting any update request, notifications or anything. Just Netflix.
- anti-idpol action ( @pkill@programming.dev ) 7•10 months ago
just plug a SBC running Kodi/jellyfin/whatever non-proprietary to a regular tv
- natebluehooves ( @natebluehooves@pawb.social ) 4•10 months ago
It’s extremely difficult to find a dumb tv in sizes larger than ~55”. You really don’t have much choice at the moment. I personally host a jellyfin server and play that via apple tv over hdmi, but content recognition still does its thing. Best i could do was deny wifi/ethernet to the tv and have no open networks.
- electric_nan ( @electric_nan@lemmy.ml ) 1•10 months ago
Yes, do exactly this. If you have AppleTV connected to your TV over HDMI or whatever, why does your TV need an internet connection?
- Showroom7561 ( @Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ) 7•10 months ago
So… Can someone explain how this is legal if you’re watching DRM content? Capturing and uploading copyrighted, protected content doesn’t seem very kosher.
advertisers spent an estimated $18.6 billion on smart TV ads
Jesus. Spend a fraction of that developing good products that people will actually want to buy so you can end this unethical, scumbag way of making a buck.
- shiveyarbles ( @shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ) 7•10 months ago
SmartTV: This customer loves watching Balance of Nature ads
Me: fuck balance of nature I fucking hate those stupid scammy ads!
- edric ( @scytale@lemm.ee ) 6•10 months ago
It says in the article there’s a privacy request option if you own a samsung tv. I went ahead and sent a request to not sell my data, although not sure if it’s effective since I’m not in CA.
- Gabu ( @Gabu@lemmy.ml ) 6•10 months ago
Doubtful, since I don’t have one.
- sic_semper_tyrannis ( @sic_semper_tyrannis@feddit.ch ) English5•10 months ago
NextDNS has a blocklist you can enable to block telemetry for Roku TVs FYI. You can also get a dumb TV or keep your TV offline and have a separate Kodi box for your shows.
- ares35 ( @ares35@kbin.social ) 5•10 months ago
on our vizio, from the settings side panel: all settings->admin/privacy->viewing data. turn it off.
- EngineerGaming ( @EngineerGaming@feddit.nl ) 6•10 months ago
I wouldn’t trust it anyway. I would only trust a TV that does not have Internet access, period.