I love the original Hotline Miami but I’m not a big fan of the boss fights like the ones in Neighbors (Biker) and Deadline (Van Driver). I find it kind of slows down the game and limits the strategies you can take.
Another example would be Fallout 3. I find the tutorial section in Vault 101 can feel a bit long after a fifth run but maybe that’s because I was spoiled by Fallout New Vegas’ ability to run off in your own direction immediately after leaving Doc Mitchell’s house.
Dark souls. Everything after Anor Londo is a bit of a slog. Once you’ve beat Snorlax and Pikachu the game gets a bit worse in terms of quality.
Nonsense, bed of chaos was the highlight of the series!
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Don’t forget those chicken leg demons they were easily the best designed enemy in the game.
Always skip Blighttown, and the game still loses steam on Lost Izalith. Really the worst part of the game.
The fucking archers
One of the most popular mods for Dragon Age: Origins is a mod that lets you skip the fade section of the game. So that’s a pretty good indication of how people feel about it.
The unskippable toturial. Every game that has one.
toturial
Love the typo. It seems a merge between “tutorial” and “torture”, which in many cases is.
Half-life’s Xen levels are particularly infamous for this sort of thing. There’s a reason the Black Mesa remake overhauled it.
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And they are still bad, IMO.
I played Xen using cheats, but I plan to replay it and see if I can get through it without a complete loss of all ammo 🤣
The initial prologue cutscene in Okami. It’s about fifteen minutes and unskippable. But, the lore being delivered by textbox, you can’t just do something else because you have to press a button to advance the text.
I love that game dearly. If I had to pick one game as my most favourite of favourites, this would be it. But please, let me skip the first fifteen minutes once I, iunno, progressed beyond the tutorial.
Okami is a masterpiece, but that into is quite tedious!
The intro of fo3 - fo4 - tes5 - tes4. I have saves just after the intro because it’s 30min - 1h just to start playing the damned game
You ever try alternative start mods?
Probably a console player.
Maybe but some people don’t use mods like that because they disable achievements but there’s mods to re-enable them.
Could also be that they don’t know about them. I feel like they aren’t super popular. A majority of the time they just dump you somewhere with some loot and you still need to backtrack a bit.
Nah, I try to stay away from mods cause I have 0 self control and end up fucking up my game
GTA: San Andreas, OG Loc mission. I’m much better at it after all these years, but I still run into at least 5 walls and fall off my bike every time. It’s way harder than the train mission.
I call Nier:Automata “the best game I will never play again” and it’s because of 9S’ combat.
What were they thinking? No one cares about 9S anyway! But he’s your playable for well more than what should only have been his one-third the game, and his combat is AWFUL! If I wanted to play Asteroids I’d play Asteroids. You have two other playable characters, both of which chop up robots with giant swords! THAT’S what people are here for, know your audience!
For me all of nier automata’s gameplay was terrible, and the story too but that is something I know not many people will agree with me on
I love Cyberpunk 2077, probably one of my favourite games ever and I’ve beaten it something like a dozen times. I still hate talking with Evelyn and doing the heist. It’s such a slog once you know what to expect. At least they made the BD tutorial skippable.
A dozen times? Damn that’s a lot lol. I’m about to play out my second since the expansion is out. My first playthrough was a Nomad sniper / Gorilla Arms / baseball at wielding punk. I think my second time I’ll go with a Corpo stealth net runner.
Fighting street thugs in the Yakuza games. The man can’t even walk peacefully for 2 mins.
The problem is even worse with Yakuza 7. The RPG fighting mechanic makes me feel like fighting is a chore. To add to that, you cant even run away from these fights.
Doom (2016) might be my all time favorite game. But the end gets really repetitive. The game is kind of loke the original Portal where they had one really great gameplay concept (the combat) and made a tight game around it with no frills. But without any other gameplay loops the end just means tediously long waves of enemies which could become a slog
I’m assuming you have played it, but Doom Eternal takes all of the good from 2016, improves all of it, and adds a whole slew of features that are virtually all positive. That, with a pretty impressive story to boot, DOOM Eternal might be my favorite sequel of all time.
Doom Eternal probably has my favorite gameplay of any game. I did think it struggled with some sequel bloat. I didnt like the bright colors even if it was a harl back to the original games, or the extended cutscenes and story and lore. It seemed a bit unnecessary especially compared to the running gag in the first one about The Doom Slayer not giving a shit about the story
I really didn’t like Doom Eternal but I think that had a lot with me wanting more of Doom 2016.
I felt Eternal had too many arcade mechanics.
I vaguely recall a mod that added some Doom Eternal mechanics to Doom 2016 but searching online the closest thing I see is the inverse; a mod that makes Doom Eternal more like Doom 2016. I might check it out but I feel like the level design would limit what the mod can do.
Ex. Removing dashing I feel like would limit the player’s ability to unlock some secrets.
KOTOR 1. Taris is cool but let’s be honest. I play that game because I like playing a Jedi. I’ve also played it from start to finish at least 20 times.
I haven’t got to your numbers, but I’ve enjoyed playing it quite a few times.
I got a perverse pleasure in going Dark Side and perverting Bastila…
I’m such a carebear. I’ve never played a darkside character because I love the supporting characters too much 😅
Every mandatory stealth section in a non-stealth game. Spider-Man, several Zelda games, Metroid Dread, Jedi Knight II.
Generally the escort missions or forced on rails/stealth sections in open world games where you have specific builds and play styles
Turret sections.
Ooof, you just gave me flashbacks to the original Deadspace turret section. One of my favourite games but damn if that section wasn’t an awful slog.