im usually pretty scared of surgical stuff, but ive been thinking about this and realized there would be a lot of benefits.
i would 100% stop producing sperm (while i am on hormones, its never quite 100%) so i can stop worrying about that
i would produce less testosterone which would probably be good
tucking and stuff would become easier / i could more easily wear fem clothing
i have yet to think of any negative effects so…
if any of you have experience with this or anything, please let me know so i can hopefully make an informed decision
- Alex ( @Alexocado@beehaw.org ) 12•1 year ago
When I had my vasectomy - still an egg back then - I already thought that I would prefer to have them removed. Less body hair, more head hair, seemed like a good trade. Looking back at that now I can only chuckle at my eggness.
As an egg, also though it might be cool to have some sort of medical condition that would let me get them removed without having to explain why I got rid of them. Was totally clueless at the time and for the next decade. The only downside of voluntarily getting them removed would be potentially explaining why I did it. Granted, I don’t think I realized at the time I’d need some sort of sex hormone. Guess one downside is in the case of extreme dystopia or being trapped alone on an island for several years/decades, not being dependent on artificial sex hormones is useful.
I totally also had these thoughts as an egg. One of the guys I knew that was friends of my brother had testicular cancer and was really messed up about the possibility of having them removed in his 20s… and I was jealous and wished that could happen to me? I didn’t tell anyone because I thought it wasn’t right to feel that way. Took awhile but it all makes sense now lmao 🏳️⚧️
honestly if i was trapped on an island id rather just let my body crumble and die than let my balls masculinize me
- Alex ( @Alexocado@beehaw.org ) 8•1 year ago
I mean eunuchs are a thing and lived long lives. So life without testes should be possible, even without replacement hormones.
- Janet ( @janet_catcus@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 1•1 year ago
i mean… maybe there are horses on that island…
- fadingembers ( @fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 9•1 year ago
This is me rn
I developed a painful varicocele and they want me to get a varicocelectomy, but like if I have to get surgery down there I’d rather they just remove them. The problem is I haven’t socially transitioned yet and I’ve heard the docs would be reluctant to give an orchi to someone that hasn’tugh thats so annoying, why do people want us to socially transition when our bodies arent ready to be perceived as female yet, kinda feels backwards to me
- fadingembers ( @fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 9•1 year ago
You reminded me of this comic I saw yesterday
crazy stuff
- Alix ( @Alixxxaneveah@lemmynsfw.com ) 2•1 year ago
Got any good sources for reading more about this BS?
- fadingembers ( @fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 1•1 year ago
I didn’t, but I found these when searching “the history of gate keeping transgender care”:
https://ojs.stanford.edu/ojs/index.php/intersect/article/view/2056
- helianthus ( @helianthus@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 8•1 year ago
You can just tell your doctor that you are socially transitioned, they won’t know. Lying to gatekeeping doctors is morally good, just don’t lie about any actual health related things unless you really know what you’re doing.
I always tell doctors I’m a trans woman, even though I’m nonbinary, since doctors frequently refuse to give trans healthcare to nonbinary people and my physical transition goals mostly align with trans women’s
- fadingembers ( @fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 5•1 year ago
Thanks, I will definitely consider it. I’m not sure if I should try to hold out since down the line I want a vaginoplasty, but if it gets worse I’ll just have them do the orchi right away.
It’s so awful how the medical system invalidates nonbinary people :/
- alx ( @alx@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 9•1 year ago
For me, the negative effects of any surgery would mostly be the surgery itself, the cost, the pain, the healing…
absolutely fair point, thats why im scared of it. but ultimately its a one time investment for long term benefit, i can kinda think about it the same way i think about having my blood drawn which also feels really bad every time. the cost would be a problem tho, i hope there could be some way to make my insurance cover it but im not optimistic about that
- Grey Cadence ( @a1tb1t@lemmy.one ) English6•1 year ago
These are all my thoughts, too. I have nothing to add though…
thats fine, knowing that im not alone in this is already helpful :p
- Remy Rose ( @MxRemy@lemmy.one ) 2•1 year ago
Definitely take this with a huge grain of salt, but I’ve heard a little anecdotal stuff about potential unintended consequences? Mostly in the form of paradoxical increases in T as the adrenals overcompensate. But I think those tend to level out eventually? I’d love it if somebody could correct me or expound upon this.
The real question is, are you retaining the extra skin or not? I think I’d keep it, personally, just for funsies 😝
- LadyAutumn ( @LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 5•1 year ago
Since bottom surgery my T levels are below the normal range for someone with ovaries. Mostly because I’m still taking the same doses as before surgery, and I do plan to adjust them once I’m fully recovered. I’ve heard of paradoxical increase, but I’m pretty sure its exceedingly uncommon. I’ve gone through a period of pretty intense feminization since I got surgery, and thats after 8 years of HRT before hand.
thanks, that sounds awesome! makes me want to do it even more :p
- Remy Rose ( @MxRemy@lemmy.one ) 3•1 year ago
Thanks for the added context! That’s a huge relief
i think id rather get rid of the extra skin, it feels weird :p
- amethyst ( @amethyst@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•1 year ago
From what little I’ve looked into, it matters how much you keep down there if you later want a vaginoplasty (because it changes what they have to work with.)
ah i see, thanks!
- Alix ( @Alixxxaneveah@lemmynsfw.com ) 2•1 year ago
Talk to a doctor.
But also this random internet stranger doesn’t see a problem with it. (not a doctor)
I haven’t had any surgeries of that kind but I’ve documented myself a bit and you should know that removing testicles can make it harder to have a vaginoplasty done later if that is something that interests you as generally tissue from the testicles is used in the surgery. It’s not impossible after but harder.