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The Mighty Cybertruck Keeps Getting Stuck in the Snow

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The Mighty Cybertruck Keeps Getting Stuck in the Snow

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Zerush ( Zerush@lemmy.ml )  to Technology@lemmy.ml ·
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Numerous online videos and images have been posted showing Tesla's Cybertruck getting stuck in typical wintery conditions.

LOL

Some more Tesla LOLs https://futurism.com/categories/advanced-transport/page/2

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  • PowerCrazy ( PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 
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    What a garbage article. Elon sucks, the cyber truck sucks, but an article about tweets is less than worthless. Perhaps the article instead of assuming elon just “didn’t have time to run tesla properly”, should dig a bit deeper and demonstrate that tesla was successful despite elon, not because of elon. Same with Space-X or Star-link.

    Now as far as why the cyber truck is getting stuck in snow, tires is the low-effort answer, but maybe look at the weight of the truck versus the contact area. Maybe look at how the traction control system works? How about whether the car is front wheel bias vs rear-wheel biased. Does it make assumptions about which wheels have contact to the ground? Does it have a differential or are all 4 wheels independently controlled? (I don’t know the answer to any of these by the way, but if I were concerned about a vehicle getting stuck in the snow, I’d certainly want an analysis that addresses all of the above.)

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      Chains are only useful if there’s snow compacted onto the road (like in a lot of mountainous areas). Winter tires are useful because they stay softer in cold weather, while summer tires get hard as a rock below a certain temp, turning your car (or cybertruck in this case) into a sled. There are also studded snow tires, but they’re useless or even dangerous on roads with no snow.

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          Without knowing specifics about the cybertruck, it’s hard to say. Another factor could be that the tires are too wide, which would prevent them from cutting through the snow to make contact with the road. There could be other factors, like traction control freaking out and locking up the wheels, AWD issues, driver error. I just don’t know enough about the CT to make an educated guess. Tires are probably the most common reason for something like this though.

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      • PowerCrazy ( PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 
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        If you are leftist you should be anti-ev. All EVs do is propagate car-centric social development which is a cancer to any potentially better world.

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          • PowerCrazy ( PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 
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            Disagree. EVs only environmental advantage is tail-pipe emissions. But they are significantly worse for society then tail-pipe emissions are. Being heavier damages the road more, and causes more tire and brake wear. Proprietary batteries mean that they are thrown away more often then gas cars. More limited range means that more car infrastrucutre is required to support them.

            At the end of the day, the limited-taxes we have in the US that discourage driving, EVs are allowed to side-step, so from a societal point of view, EVs are absolutely worse in everyway (except trivial tail-pipe emissions). If you are a leftist who has to drive a car, an EV wouldn’t even be a viable option. You’d be better off in a hybrid.

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              • belated_frog_pants ( belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org ) 
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                Have you read about the actual environmental costs and material extraction needed for electric cars? EVs are about saving the auto industry when gas runs out. Not about saving the environment.

                The conservative parroting usually takes a sliver of truth and runs with it while tacking on other bullshit to make it seem legit. The “anything to own the libs” is part of that dogma, but pushing a con is easier with a twisted truth to lead the bigger lies.

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              • PowerCrazy ( PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 
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                It literally is though. They are worse in every single other way including the people that defend them.

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              • PowerCrazy ( PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 
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                You are the dumbest person I’ve seen post today.

                re: nazi salute, you don’t understand the purpose of the legislation, it has nothing to do with “nazis,” it’s purpose is to silence dissent, the nazi excuse is so sheeple like you support it unconditionally.

                Similar to EVs. Their purpose is to ensure car development can continue and idiots like you don’t realize that the problem with cars has nothing to do with what powers them. Why do you think you live 60km away from work with no public transit? Because cars force you to.

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    • kent_eh ( kent_eh@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Tires may be part of the equation, but ground clearance is typically more important to avoiding getting stuck in the snow.

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        Definitely important, but in my experience with good tires and patience you can basically plow the snow out of the way

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          Getting enough snow jammed under a vehicle will high-center the vehicle. If the tires can’t touch the ground,it doesn’t matter how good they are.

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            Good tires prevent you from sinking down into the snow in the first place. You can have 5 feet of ground clearance but that doesn’t help you in 6 feet of snow.

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      It’s also really heavy. I have a crosstrek and even with all seasons on I’m getting up that driveway in the video with no problems at all.

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      I imagine deep snow is very similar to sand where you want the largest contact patch possible in order to float on the surface. Here we have some dunes that you can offroad in and tour companies take busses full of people out there but they use gigantic tires that look like donut shaped balloons and perform decently even though they’re low powered and incredibly heavy.

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    I’d feel like such an asshole driving one of these things. If someone gave me one for free, I wouldn’t even want to park it in front of my house.

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      Sell it for some extra cash.

      CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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    Probably bad tires to be honest. Bad tires for a hideous truck: a loosing recipe.

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      Too bad the tires are tied to the wheel and can’t just be exchanged

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        they aren’t tied to the wheel, just the hubcaps. If you want to run it without the hubcaps, you can put whatever tire you want on it.

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        if only they used something sensible like nuts and bolts to secure them. something which could be easily unscrewed…

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          They do but the tires are specifically made for Cybertruck and the hubcaps lock in with the tire. If you buy a different set of tires they fit the wheels just fine but the hubcaps no longer do. It just affect aesthetics and probably aerodynamics.

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        Really?! That is so more shittier than I thought!

        And actual human beings purchased those things?

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    Truck built for truck things fails at truck things

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    I remember MKBHD made a comment about the snow possibly being an issue opening the doors as well. Hoping these things were actually tested in super cold conditions

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      Tesla and tested?

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        That’s what “launch edition” Teslas are for.

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    Shitty truck performs shittily.

    Fixed their headline.

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  • Mario Bariša ( MarioBarisa@lemmy.ml ) 
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    There is not a single good thing about the Cybertruck.

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    I’m curious if this is a “Cyber Truck” issue or an electric vehicle / drive train issue. I mean, do the electric motors in these vehicles have “gears”?

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    • Gamma ( GammaGames@beehaw.org ) 
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      These trucks are really heavy, being made out of metal. Google says 6600-6800lbs while a F150 is 4200-5700 lbs

      No idea on the drive train, would be interesting to see though!

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      mostly seems like a tire issue. These things come with all seasons made for fuel efficiency, not traction.

    • st3ph3n ( st3ph3n@midwest.social ) 
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      It’s not an electric vehicle thing… Plenty of other EVs do fine in the snow. Mine even has a snow drive mode and it does pretty great on all season tires.

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    Who would have guessed that an offroad vehicle designed in socal only works on bare, dry, triassic limestone.

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    Several comments about tires being the issue. I’ve driven through worse with a simple set of all-seasons - is there something special about EV tires that make them perform so poorly in these conditions?

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      Low rolling resistance tires tend to be not very great in snow. They get that low rolling resistance partly by not having a very sticky compound, and partly by not having a very aggressive tread pattern (among other things, I’m sure). Both of those factors are going to have an impact on traction on anything but dry pavement.

      It might also be due to other design choices. I’ve got a 2015 Ford Fusion PHEV, and I had a 2013 Fusion Hybrid before that; they suck so bad in the snow with normal all-season tires that I have to keep a finger on the electric parking brake switch to make sure I can stop if there’s any snow on the ground.

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        I bet it has traction control which is great in wet conditions, and light snow. Get over 5" of snow and traction control is worthless if you start to get stuck.

        So apparently after a quick search, I found that the truck does indeed have traction control, and it’s buried somewhere in a submenu of it’s touch screen controls. So I bet more than likely stuff like this is happening because the controls are not easily found and readily available to turn off when you need it.

        Hell on my Jetta it’s on the panel by the emergency brake. Easy to find and turn off.

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      Hubris?

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    Good.

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