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minnix ( minnix@lemux.minnix.dev )  to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago

Your washing machine could be sending 3.7 GB of data a day — LG washing machine owner disconnected his device from Wi-Fi after noticing excessive outgoing daily data traffic

www.tomshardware.com

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Your washing machine could be sending 3.7 GB of data a day — LG washing machine owner disconnected his device from Wi-Fi after noticing excessive outgoing daily data traffic

www.tomshardware.com

minnix ( minnix@lemux.minnix.dev )  to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago
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The owner was puzzled why a clothes washer would need so much data.
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  • mlaga97 ( mlaga97@lemmy.mlaga97.space ) 
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    That’s a pretty silly headline for an article that quite clearly states that the issue was with the router’s data usage reporting capabilities.

    • wahming ( wahming@monyet.cc ) 
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      They suspect, but it’s hardly clear cut

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      • Saik0 ( Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com ) 
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        Should be something that you rule out long before blaming LG…

  • sennheisenberg ( sennheisenberg@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    Smart devices are great, but if it’s not Zigbee or Zwave and Home Assistant, it can fuck off.

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      I like my devices to be dumb but be able to function without internet.

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  • Arthur Besse ( cypherpunks@lemmy.ml ) 
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    It’s possible that it had some vulnerability which was automatically exploited by one of her majesty’s secret services (perhaps with help from their US counterparts) to make it a component of their covert infrastructure.

    Sounds outlandish, but

    this was happening in 2010:

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    I don’t understand the craze of slapping wifi or bluetooth connectivity to everything without giving proper thought. Cameras, television, vehicles, coffee pots, medical devices, laundry machines, hipster juicers… what’s next? Is my salt shaker going to have it?

    • cosmic_skillet ( cosmic_skillet@lemmy.ml ) 
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      That’s a great idea! You can check your salt levels while at work or on vacation. You could even have your salt shaker automatically order more salt from Amazon when the level got too low. Or how about you program your maximum daily salt intake so it closes up when it’s reached.

      So much potential!

      • archomrade [he/him] ( archomrade@midwest.social ) 
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        Not even a little far-fetched

    • space ( space@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      And the bad part is that it is being forced upon us. You can’t even find non-smart TVs to buy anymore.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if appliances come with their own data plan, because the data they collect is valuable.

    • wintrparkgrl ( wintrparkgrl@beehaw.org ) 
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      The craze is pushed by the manufacturers. They make money off of data mining

  • ExLisper ( ExLisper@linux.community ) 
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    My heat pump can be controlled by an app but it all goes through an external web page for some reason so I noped out of it.

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    • Akasazh ( Akasazh@feddit.nl ) 
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      How to check this? I’ve got an LG heat pump…

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        It was in the manual. There’s an extra piece you connect inside and an app.

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    Do not buy BS internet connected devices period. There was a time when internet connected devices did exactly they were supposed to do and nothing more. There is literally no reason why most of these devices can’t act as their own server and keep your data local and private. Corporations have become far too greedy to trust their cloud won’t sell you out in every way it can. The ONLY two reasons a manufacturer adds internet connectivity are:

    1. To monitor and collect as much data as possible and/or:

    2. To implement a subscription service for something that normally wouldn’t require monthly payments.

    Corporate closed clouds have proven time and time again that they can’t be trusted.

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      There is literally no reason why most of these devices can’t act as their own server

      As much as I dislike cloud stuff. The cloud is by far the easiest solution for support and average users.

      Your not dealing with end users calling in and having to diagnose why two devices on their network are not talking to each other.

      As long as both your devices have Internet it will work.

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  • Pat_Riot ( Pat_Riot@lemmy.today ) 
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    If you bought a washing machine that needs Internet access you are a fucking idiot.

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      They don’t need wifi, so no, you’re not an idiot if you buy one and just leave it disconnected

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        Why pay for features you aren’t going to use?

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          Most of them don’t have non-wifi variants, at least not that I know of

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            I have a Speed Queen washer and dryer. Quality products don’t rely on gimmicks, they do their job.

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    Bloatware has spiraled out of control. It’s a consequence of coding becoming easy and accessible. Programming is no longer the domain of idealistic nerds. It is possible for anyone to make garbage tech wares.

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      Wait, wait, wait. Let’s not aim at the wrong thing. Programming becoming accessible is a great, and is not the cause of bloat. Bloat is not even something that can be easily pointed to a single cause, and a lot of things played a role, like poor tech education, companies not giving a fuck and relying on hardware replacement, lack of regulations, big tech corporations having practically monopolies and no incentive to create better products, the high demands of timing for projects, etc.

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        Not to mention plain old fashioned bad management.

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    It’s an older meme sir, but it checks out.

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    woohoo high tech everything is the best

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  • Karna ( KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml ) 
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    That’s a clear indication of IoT control being taken over by malicious actor to make it a part of botnet.

    Any IoT needs to be secured when connected to Internet (and, not intranet).

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      What exactly in this article indicates that? I feel you’re either mis-reading the article or baselessly fear-mongering here.

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    Who would buy a washing machine with internet access? Why? Not feeling like you are giving enoigh of your privacy and personal data to Google or FB or Apple? They should just sign up to TikTok, much cheaper.

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      I don’t have even money for such washing machines haha

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