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they scrubed there no ip logs policy years ago
shortwavesurfer ( @shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip ) 19•6 months agoMy threat model is not LE, its google, facebook, etc. If me using privacy services happens to make LE’s job harder well thats just the cherry on top.
ReversalHatchery ( @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) 4•6 months agoAt the same time it’s also important that the provider only complies with requests where it legally has to. I trust Proton to act this way.
Elise ( @xilliah@beehaw.org ) 15•6 months agoWell I’m a customer and I think it’s fine if the requests are legitimate. The question then of course is what is legitimate.
belated_frog_pants ( @belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org ) 6•6 months agoIts always about petty shit like piracy. You’d wish it was all them catching CSAM creators but thats a sliver of it. They’d be catching more rich dudes if it was.
crandlecan ( @crandlecan@mander.xyz ) 2•6 months agoArresting XR rebels… So jo, it’s not legitimate at all
ebits21 ( @ebits21@lemmy.ca ) English9•6 months agoMy understanding is that the email is encrypted still so… they hand over the encrypted data which might be useless.
(CEO did a podcast this week for a Linux podcast)
LWD ( @LWD@lemm.ee ) 4•5 months agodeleted
sqgl ( @sqgl@beehaw.org ) 1•6 months agoI thought the email body is e2e encrypted nowadays by default(?). And I mean regardless of who your provider is.
sqgl ( @sqgl@beehaw.org ) 3•6 months agoI suppose they now keep logs of their VPN service too then.
ReakDuck ( @ReakDuck@lemmy.ml ) 6•6 months agoSwiss law doesnt allow complying with VPN services afaik.
ProtonVPN and ProtonMail are completely seperate too.
sqgl ( @sqgl@beehaw.org ) 2•6 months agoDo you mean the law doesn’t allow forcing the VPN service to comply with VPN log requests by authorities?
And what do you mean by “completely separate”?
Proton VPN… is operated by the Swiss company Proton AG, the company behind the email service Proton Mail.
Romain_Ty ( @Romain_Ty@piaille.fr ) 5•6 months ago@sqgl @ReakDuck
From what I understood :
Under Swiss laws, VPN providers are not forced to log anything.
They also can’t comply with orders coming from a foreign country if not approved by Swiss authorities.
If someone is put under surveillance, he/she have to know that.However, always remind that that’s just the law, not what is technically possible. If you’re considered as a real threat for an important country, neither Switzerland or any country will protect you.
labbbb ( @labbbb@thelemmy.club ) 2•6 months agoProtonMail was not even against cooperation with the RuSSian terrorist government, and this post was still downvoted, funny.
Have you already decided whether privacy is important to you or not?