• jkrtn ( jkrtn@lemmy.ml ) 
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      One problem is that what they’re calling him is completely inaccurate. “Journalist” implies impartiality, of at least content with a non-zero amount of truth.

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    It’s more than just “fascist journalist”. Journalists report facts (at least that is what they’re supposed to do), any “blah blah journalist” is just “blah blah”

    Also, fuck this guy, he doesn’t fear for his life, it’s just a made up story so they can again shit on those they hate.

  • Queen HawlSera ( HawlSera@lemm.ee ) 
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    Isn’t this the asian guy who doesn’t understand that white supremacists only like white people and claimed to be suing the CEO of Antifa for damages that never actually happened?

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    Finally I understand what antifa means.

    I am not American and have been out of the loop for years now.

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    Not really there are anti antifa centrists and leftists that are simply against extremist movements. At least where i live antifa is pretty militant so people basically group it with the fascists which is pretty ironic if you think about it. A long time ago i was also anti antifa but seeing the lenghts that “conservatives” go to fuck up everything we love im also swinging to a more violent leftism.

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      This is a wording error, a lot of people fell for. Antifa only means you are against fascism and nothing more.

      More simpler? If you aren’t a fascist, you are antifa!

    • At least where i live antifa is pretty militant

      You’re full of shit. Show me an article of your “militant antifa”. If it’s as bad as you say someone will be reporting on it.

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    I mean that would make sense if Antifa had anything to do with fascism. It’s just one of many movements wearing labels that intentionally misrepresent it’s members.

    It’s like being anti-Patriot act and then others claiming that you’re against patriotism.

    You’re playing into their hands.

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      Love this argument.

      You wouldn’t know a fascist if it grabbed you by the pussy.

      And that’s like saying “If Black Lives Matter were actually black” or something. Antifa isn’t a group, person, or organization…it’s an idea. Much like BLM or Occupy.

      The real problem is that the idea ends up losing focus as it gains support, and then it gets spread out too far, and then it dies. Happens nearly every time.

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          Yes, sure, it can, but I think it’s more of just a sign of the times. I think infiltrating and co-opting an ideology, intentionally, is pretty difficult…unless the infiltrator already has a large platform, they will likely be drowned out. Otherwise I think sabotage is a better (as in more effective) approach to slowing a movement (such as inciting riots).

          For one, communication is rampant and anybody can get a platform. This is great for starting and growing a movement, but this makes it really difficult to maintain a movement. A large number of well-meaning people with a pre-existing platform (namely influencers and YouTube personalities these days) that each interpret and redistribute the message just sligntly different than original. From there it spirals into a huge, multi-pronged game of telephone.

          For two, a lot of the leftist movements inspire democrats to join into the crowd. The democrat party has become the de facto big tent party. At this point it’s embodying the ideals of like 80% of the political compass. Naturally, this attracts a diverse range of idealogies, who want to interpret and spread the movement slightly differently.

          Lastly…it’s fucking tough to lead a movement man. I couldn’t imagine what it takes to essentially corral millions of people around an idea.

          The first and third points are probably why we don’t see a lot of celebrity activists these days to the level of MLK or Malcom X. The increased scale and speed must make it incredibly difficult to get and maintain control.

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        Love this argument.

        Me too!

        You wouldn’t know a fascist if it grabbed you by the pussy.

        You’re correct. I wouldn’t. Because I don’t have one.

        Antifa isn’t a group, person, or organization…it’s an idea.

        Tell that to it’s supporters.

        Much like BLM or Occupy.

        Wrong again.

        The real problem is that the idea ends up losing focus as it gains support, and then it gets spread out too far, and then it dies. Happens nearly every time.

        Well unfortunately this one persists.