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"Protesters who wear masks could face arrest, up to a month in jail and a £1,000 fine under proposed measures that human rights campaigners claim are pandering to “culture war nonsense”.
Police in England and Wales will be given the power to arrest people if they are wearing face coverings at specific demonstrations, the Home Office has said."
Been a bad 18 months or so for privacy in the UK. Online Safety Bill passed, the right to take strike action curtailed, people in receipt of benefits (including disabled people) will soon (as from 2025) have their bank accounts open to the government, the right to protest curtailed and now this.
li10 ( @li10@lemmy.ml ) 94•5 months agoI see no hope for this country. Things are just getting worse and worse every year, how long can this keep going?
It’s pretty bad now, but I seriously worry what things will be like in 20 or so years.
Milk_Sheikh ( @Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee ) 14•5 months agoTories on a any% speed run to the government from Children of Men, while the left is worried about which way Kier decides to lean that afternoon
dangblingus ( @dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 6•5 months agoYall need to grab some pitchforks
intrepid ( @intrepid@lemmy.ca ) 94•5 months agoThis is just the first step at making protests illegal.
DessertStorms ( @DessertStorms@kbin.social ) 54•5 months agoYeah, no, we’re long past that point
https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/advice_information/pcsc-policing-act-protest-rights/
by decades
https://socialistworker.co.uk/reviews-and-culture/police-brutality-against-striking-miners-and-cover-ups-laid-bare
centuries…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterloo_Massacre
ryan213 ( @ryan213@lemmy.ca ) 59•5 months agoHmm…I wonder which political spectrum the current government belongs to…
DessertStorms ( @DessertStorms@kbin.social ) 37•5 months agoFuck the Tories right, but I also don’t see Starmer opposing any of this.
appel ( @appel@whiskers.bim.boats ) 32•5 months agoStarmer is like like 1 cm left of rishi
DessertStorms ( @DessertStorms@kbin.social ) 14•5 months agoExactly… (leaving both firmly on the right)
Vote none, and start organising (in your work place, in your community, in your own home inspiring your kids). If you still can’t see that the system is designed by the rich and powerful for the rich and powerful, you’re not paying any real attention (precisely why the media keeps society constantly looking at anything but how things are really run).
We need to abolish the establishments keeping us down, not continue to play their game by their rules and wonder why things never change…
mayooooo ( @MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org ) 14•5 months agoYou can vote as left as you can and still do whatever you are saying to do. Having ultraright nazi shits in power because you’re an internet idiot will not help you - in fact it will completely rob you of the chance to ever change anything. You dumb fucks will solve the world by not fucking voting, even if the game is rigged you don’t have to be the dumbest shit about it
DessertStorms ( @DessertStorms@kbin.social ) 2•5 months agoTell me you didn’t click the link without saying you didn’t click the link (hint: it literally tells people to vote).
Also tell me you buy in to the distraction propaganda without saying you buy in to the distraction propaganda (hint: having a red tie on while not opposing a single piece of fascist legislation makes you, at the very least, a fascist enabler, or in reality, simply another fascist just one who is better at hiding it)…You’re literally giving a live demonstration of why continuing to play within their rules leads nowhere but deepening the divide within the working class.
Blaming the people trapped in it, for the system keeping us all down, instead of those who created and benefit from it is one hell of a self destructive trick you’re doing for your overlords…
Either way, you’re an ableist piece of crap, licking a boot because you’ve simply grown too comfortable with the feeling of it rammed down your throat, you have no high ground here. ¯\(ツ)/¯
mayooooo ( @MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org ) 4•5 months agoI’m not talking about the article, it’s about saying no. If I need to read the article that says yes when your link says no… I’m just sick of the onslaught of defetism online where a whole bunch of people have the idea they can just ignore reality and it’s all gona fix itself. But who cares right, will all be dead because of the climate wars so it’s all cool
appel ( @appel@whiskers.bim.boats ) 1•5 months agotbh I’m scared of the power the gov already has. I am worried if I join any communist org, it will endanger my partners immigration status. I also don’t see the orgs around me doing much useful stuff it seems, mostly just selling newspapers (that no one buys cos they cost a fiver)
RobotToaster ( @RobotToaster@mander.xyz ) 10•5 months agoA μm at best.
floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English4•5 months agoThat would mean taking a stance on an issue, which might alienate some voters somewhere.
Kaboom ( @Kaboom@reddthat.com ) 5•5 months agoWhatever gets them votes. Actual conservatives would at least pretend to care about the economy.
admiralteal ( @admiralteal@kbin.social ) 20•5 months agoWhy? Conservatism is about preserving traditional values and traditional power structures not the economy.
If you actually care about the economy that means you care about progressing a more effective and efficient state for the benefit of the people. Afraid that makes you a progressive which the conservatives assure us they aren’t.
Kaboom ( @Kaboom@reddthat.com ) 2•5 months agoWell if they were conservative and cared about traditional values, they wouldnt have let in so many migrants.
RobotToaster ( @RobotToaster@mander.xyz ) 2•5 months agoConservatism is about preserving the status quo. (As opposed to reactionaries that want to restore the status quo ante)
illi ( @illi@lemm.ee ) English59•5 months agoSo if someone doesn’t want to get sick for being in a huge crowd, they get arrested? Truly genius.
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 54•5 months agoOi you got a loicence for that mask?
tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺 ( @tryptaminev@feddit.de ) 9•5 months agoI do but ye cant see mi face on the loicence photo anyways
Turbo ( @Turbo@lemmy.ml ) 2•5 months agoHahaha
lemmyreader ( @lemmyreader@lemmy.ml ) English34•5 months agoIs the UK turning into a dictatorship or an undeveloped country ? How is independent press doing over there ?
More like fascist-adjacent. And we started the process of underdeveloping ourselves when the fascist-adjacent leaders persuaded the terminally ignorant that Brexit would be great when it was obvious it was going to lead exactly where it is leading right now.
rmuk ( @rmuk@feddit.uk ) English17•5 months agodictatorship or an undeveloped country
Right-Wing Government: why not both?
DessertStorms ( @DessertStorms@kbin.social ) 30•5 months agoI think it’s important to relate the latter part to the former - beyond the privacy issues with not being allowed to wear masks (and having our bank accounts invaded), there is also the health aspect, and disallowing masks is one sure fire way to keep disabled people from assembling, since, you know, we don’t want to get covid, being significantly more likely to die from it (not necessarily because of the illness, but because our lives are deemed less worth saving).
The lack of any mask mandates already excludes disabled people from so many public spaces, this is just another way to keep us (as well as others, you know, first they came for…) from fighting back. as they strip us of every last human right.
LKPU26 ( @LKPU26@lemmy.ml ) 22•5 months agoAre they going to arrest Muslim women with face coverings?
porous_grey_matter ( @porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ) 6•5 months agoYeah lol of course, they would absolutely love any excuse to do that
NigelFrobisher ( @NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ) 18•5 months agoBut they already made protest illegal.
Alien Nathan Edward ( @reverendsteveii@lemm.ee ) English14•5 months agoit will be interesting to see if we ever get to a point during the next inevitable global pandemic where masks are compulsory in some places and illegal in others
Pssdoff ( @Pssdoff@beehaw.org ) English21•5 months agoThey want it to be illegal to both wear and not to wear a mask so that they can selectivity enforce arbitrary laws against whomever they wish.
fosstulate ( @fosstulate@iusearchlinux.fyi ) 4•5 months agoLike that traffic light on a rural Russian intersection that is always red
Alien Nathan Edward ( @reverendsteveii@lemm.ee ) English3•5 months agoor like in America, where if the cops want to kick your door in all they have to do is say they smelled something and then it’s on you to prove they didn’t
Exocrinous ( @exocrinous@lemm.ee ) English1•5 months agoThis is like when online community moderators ban discussion of politics.
Everything is political. If you ban politics, you can take action against anyone
ULS ( @ULS@lemmy.ml ) 12•5 months agoFace paint.
crapwittyname ( @crapwittyname@lemm.ee ) 3•5 months agoFace paint it is.
Rin ( @Rin@lemm.ee ) 11•5 months agoFuck this country. I’m moving out.
Chaotic Entropy ( @ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ) English10•5 months agoWell that should put us back on track as a nation, practical solutions for our modern problems. What a relief.
RobotToaster ( @RobotToaster@mander.xyz ) 10•5 months agoFirst they force you to wear masks in public, then they ban it. Fucking clowns.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Protesters who wear masks could face arrest, up to a month in jail and a £1,000 fine under proposed measures that human rights campaigners claim are pandering to “culture war nonsense”.
Police in England and Wales will be given the power to arrest people if they are wearing face coverings at specific demonstrations, the Home Office has said.
The move is in direct response to the four protesters being cleared of criminal damage after toppling a statute of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol in 2022 .
Ministers will also make climbing on war memorials a specific public order offence, carrying a three-month sentence and a £1,000 fine.
Shami Chakrabarti, the human rights lawyer and peer, said: “Should rape victims or refugees peacefully protesting really be punished for covering their faces to protect their identities?
The home secretary, James Cleverly, said that recent protests had seen “a small minority dedicated to causing damage and intimidating the law-abiding majority”.
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