I’m looking to get inspiration for my own writing. I need a hard sci fi series where earth (and earthlike worlds) are too rare, inaccessible, and/or previously spoiled beyond ability to sustain life. Bonus points if it is set on a multi-generational space station or starship without any other options and goes into detail about life support, living space, mineral mining and expansion of the station to accomodate a growing population, and daily life of it’s residents.
If anyone remembers Drifter Colonies from Titan A.E., that’s what’s in my head.
I’m looking for The Martian levels of realism, and I’m fine with a bit of “Unobtanium” clichés if they’re not core to the story.
- Davel23 ( @Davel23@kbin.social ) 23•5 months ago
Seveneves by Neal Stephenson is this.
Also Tau Zero by Poul Anderson, to a degree.
- Urist ( @Urist@kbin.social ) 6•5 months ago
Came here to say Seveneves as well. Just borrowed it again from the library today actually! Highly recommend.
- treadful ( @treadful@lemmy.zip ) English5•5 months ago
Just chiming in to say Seveneves is a great read.
- SawNee ( @SawNee@aussie.zone ) English3•5 months ago
I was going to suggest Tau Zero. It might not be exactly what he’s chasing but there’s are some similar points. Plus it’s really good and fairly short.
- Admetus ( @Admetus@sopuli.xyz ) 1•5 months ago
It certainly ticks off the hard science point, but is more about how the crew deal with everything philosophically. Nothing like the Martian I guess.
- proprioception ( @proprioception@kbin.social ) 18•5 months ago
Just a loose round up so far
Seveneves Neal Stephenson
Tau Zero Poul Anderson
Metro 2033 Dmitry Glukhovsky
The Children of Time Adrian Tchaikovsky
Lucifer’s Hammer Larry Niven
Pushing Ice Alastair Reynolds
Record of a Spaceborn Few by Becky Chambers
Diaspora by Greg Egan
A Memory Called Empire by Arkady Martin
The 100 Kass Morgan
Interdependency trilogy by John Scalzi.
Silo series of books by Hugh Howey- init ( @init@lemmy.ml ) 2•5 months ago
Seveneves is incredible, with the caveat that the last chapter of the book was almost handwavey with regards to the author’s conclusion of where humanity ended up. 10/10 otherwise.
- Adderbox76 ( @Adderbox76@lemmy.ca ) English1•5 months ago
That last part felt like an entirely different book. I didn’t even finish it. I just pretend the story ended before that.
- plumbus ( @plumbus@feddit.de ) 2•5 months ago
Thumbs up for the Silo series. Even though it’s not in outer space, many other boxes tick: multi-generation, environmental systems, spoiled planet …
- init ( @init@lemmy.ml ) 1•5 months ago
Going to have to check this one out!
- Pulptastic ( @Pulptastic@midwest.social ) English1•5 months ago
I’ve loved half of that list and now have to read the other half
- intensely_human ( @intensely_human@lemm.ee ) 16•5 months ago
The Expanse series is kinda like that. There are other planets, but most of the action takes place on ships, stations, and asteroids that have been converted into stations. It goes into depth about life in space, and everything from engineering to biology, sociology, politics, and theology.
- PolandIsAStateOfMind ( @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml ) 3•5 months ago
The topic is straight brought up several times, including most notably in book 2 about the Jupiter moons, but they all claim it’s borderline impossible because all this is super delicate system only made possible by Earth anyway. Which is later proven true in last book.
- Berttheduck ( @Berttheduck@lemmy.ml ) 13•5 months ago
Doesn’t quite fit the bill as there’s a planet eventually but Children of Time by Tchaikovsky is excellent and half the book follows a generation ship. The other half follows a successive evolution of uplifted spiders. It’s reasonably hard sci-fi not Martian levels of detail about the science but very well written and enjoyable. Could be worth a go for some inspiration.
- livus ( @livus@kbin.social ) 3•5 months ago
The other half follows a successive evolution of uplifted spiders
This is the book I didn’t know I wanted to read until now.
- Berttheduck ( @Berttheduck@lemmy.ml ) 4•5 months ago
It does a really good job of making you empathize with giant spiders. I can also recommend the audio book, very well done.
- livus ( @livus@kbin.social ) 3•5 months ago
@Berttheduck awesome. I love relatable non-human characters that are genuinely alien not just crypto humans.
- Lemonparty ( @Lemonparty@lemm.ee ) 3•5 months ago
It owns. Haven’t read the third one yet. Not even sure if it’s out but if it is it’s next on the list.
- livus ( @livus@kbin.social ) 2•5 months ago
@Lemonparty cool I’ve been looking for a series.
- plactagonic ( @plactagonic@sopuli.xyz ) 12•5 months ago
Read Dune if you didn’t read it it goes deep in to ecology and terraforming of Arrakis, Fremen surviving on it,water relations in environment…
Another inspiration for you may be Scavengers Reign - animated series about surviving on lush planet that is really inhospitable for humans.
- demoman ( @demoman@lemmy.one ) English1•5 months ago
Dune is a fantastic series!
- darvit ( @darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl ) 12•5 months ago
The Bobiverse series is about a person who dies and wakes up as an AI that must replicate itself across the stars, while humanity ends on Earth.
- MrBobDobalina ( @MrBobDobalina@lemmy.ml ) 11•5 months ago
Not quite what you’re after but I absolutely love Diaspora by Greg Egan.
It’s a different take on the same issues you’re asking about (not at first, but it’s not really a spoiler to say that it explores them whether or not it’s as necessary as your examples state), a take that leans more into different forms of existence rather than supporting our current existence in a different environment (but touches on aspects of that too, kind of). It’s mega-multi-generational while also not being that at all, depending on perspective.
- The Bard in Green ( @thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz ) English10•5 months ago
The Interdependency series by John Scalzi portrays a society where some number of star systems, containing only one habitable planet which is at the very far reaches of the wormhole network, are connected together by wormholes. The society is called “the Interdependency” because every orbital habitat, dome and underground city is hugely dependent on trade with other habitats… without robust transfer of goods and raw materials EVERYONE would die… and this DOESN’T prevent stupid, short sighted, greedy humans from gambling with the stability of it all for their own personal economic and political gain. Fun books. Like most Scalzi, it’s not too deep. But it’s lots of fun.
- DAMunzy ( @DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 2•5 months ago
That’s what immediately came to my mind!
- Firipu ( @Firipu@startrek.website ) 2•5 months ago
Can vouch for that series. Great fun.
- init ( @init@lemmy.ml ) 10•5 months ago
Children of Time series goes over this a little bit, especially in the first book. Colonists end up waking up early due to a malfunction and end up falling into a devolving tribalistic race to the bottom on their journey to the planet.
EDIT: As for “hard” scifi, while I wouldn’t say this series is at the same level as The Martian or maybe The Expanse, it is pretty good with trying to keep things real, especially with regards to the human threads of the story.
- Dagwood222 ( @Dagwood222@lemm.ee ) 2•5 months ago
https://bookshop.org/p/books/children-of-time-adrian-tchaikovsky/113411?ean=9780316452502
Author and book information. Good series.
- ShouldIHaveFun ( @ShouldIHaveFun@feddit.ch ) 9•5 months ago
If you also accept TV series, Battlestar Galactica may interest you.
- I Cast Fist ( @ICastFist@programming.dev ) 4•5 months ago
It deals with a small fleet of survivors desperately seeking a new home planet, who live in constant paranoia due to the enemy being able to plant sleeper agents within their crews. I remember they had to mine asteroids for fuel.
- SeaJ ( @SeaJ@lemm.ee ) 8•5 months ago
The Mars series by Kim Stanley Robinson definitely fits the bill. The Ministry of the Future does too but it is more about the coming climate change disaster.
- FiniteLooper ( @FiniteLooper@lemm.ee ) English8•5 months ago
Lucifer’s Hammer by Larry Niven is a fantastic book that might be near what you are looking for. It’s about an asteroid impact on Earth, this removes a lot of the population and infrastructure and the story focuses on a few different groups of people as they make do with what they can find or scavenge, and then the resource battling that goes on between groups.
A story line I remember well is on a group that found an abandoned neighborhood and were astonished to find that it still had running water from the nearby local dam/reservoir. They lived here for quite a while in their relative luxury until it just stopped working one day. A burst pipe in some other neighborhood had slowly drained the dam faster than they would have used it up.
Anyway, it’s a great book because it feels so realistic as to what would really happen and the struggles people would actually be going through.
- saigot ( @saigot@lemmy.ca ) 6•5 months ago
All tomorrow’s by c.m koseman may be interesting to you. It’s a short story that examines the state of humanity several billion years in the future after they have evolved to be unrecognizable. Some civilizations thrived and became better, many devolved and live tortured existances. Quite a few lose the ability to speak or lose intelligence in general.
- Lemonparty ( @Lemonparty@lemm.ee ) 6•5 months ago
Children of Time is nearly exactly what you’re looking for. The whole series doesn’t follow nicely with what you’re looking for but the focus remains on that aspect of things for lack of wanting to spoil anything. If nothing else read the first book, it’s exceptional.
- init ( @init@lemmy.ml ) 1•5 months ago
Wholeheartedly agree. I’ve read the first and second, and liked the first the most. Still planning to read the third eventually.
I also should mention I “read” them on audible, and the narrator was good too.
- PeriodicallyPedantic ( @PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ) 2•5 months ago
I didn’t realize there was a 3rd. I’m gonna have to go find it now
- Lemonparty ( @Lemonparty@lemm.ee ) 1•5 months ago
FYI if you, like me, did not realize the third book was out, it is! I just bought it, gonna start it tonight
- Bldck ( @Bldck@beehaw.org ) English6•5 months ago
Surprised no one has mentioned The Expanse series. A ton of world building in very different kinds of environments. Space stations, small ships, big ships, generation ships, asteroids, moons, planets.
The environments are well thought out in how the residents would need to adapt
- livus ( @livus@kbin.social ) 4•5 months ago
It was the first thing I thought of but I thought Earth was still too viable for OP in the first few books, plus the science isn’t The Martian level hard.
- SeaJ ( @SeaJ@lemm.ee ) 3•5 months ago
Cibola Burn especially was really cool with the world building. Things that you don’t really hear of in other novels or even think of like the fact that alien plant life would be completely inedible to us are dealt with in detail.