Lemmy.ml has long had some political conflict among the userbase, especially in communities like worldnews. This is because the instance is composed of both leftists (anarchist/communist) and liberals (those who agree with the mainstream political views in western countries). Additionally, the instance admins all belong to the former group.
Recently we made an announcement offering free Lemmy instance hosting for one year, for non-politics instances. We are hereby making a similar offer to host a liberal or mainstream political instance, which can accomodate those who are unhappy with lemmy.ml moderation.
This has many advantages. Instance admins have full power to set the rules, block federated instances (like lemmygrad.ml), or remove unwanted content. An administration team that is closer aligned politically would certainly be an improvement for some of the users here.
So if you are interested to host such an instance, send an email to contact@join-lemmy.org some relevant details about yourself. You will also have to buy a domain. We will only host one such instance, so if multiple people are interested, you should coordinate among yourselves. As in the original offer, the hosting will be limited to one year.
On a side note, we would also like to help with the creation of a general-purpose instance that is less focused on politics than most of the existing instances. This is fully within the terms of the initial “free instance hosting” announcement, so if you are interested, send us an email!
- drone621 ( @drone621@lemmy.ml ) 26•2 years ago
Up until about a month ago, I thought lemmy.ml was plenty welcoming to people on the left that weren’t tankies. Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, that’s changed. The anarkiddie jokes get old really, really fast.
- XxWe-Got-theBreadxX ( @XxweGotTheBreadxX@lemmy.ml ) 14•2 years ago
Yeah I’m not even anarchist or anarchist-leaning but it got old ages ago
- krolden ( @krolden@lemmy.ml ) 14•2 years ago
Really? Liberals have enough soap boxes, they can surely pay for another if they want it.
I do dig the idea of more general purpose instances tho, as long as they keep up on spam mitigation.
- Faresh ( @Faresh@lemmy.ml ) 19•2 years ago
One of the criticisms that has sometimes been brought up against Lemmy is that it is just for “tankies” (which is not true, but they see the biggest instance described as “a community of leftist privacy and FOSS enthusiasts”, that contrary to all other social networks doesn’t label communists and other people as being part of a dangerous violent extremist movement; and the second biggest instance whose icon is the picture of a literal tank with red background, and a title that is a play on Leningrad and Lemmy). I therefore think that promoting diversity among instances in actions like these is a good idea.
- morrowind ( @morrowind@lemmy.ml ) 9•2 years ago
This is merely a product of people not being aware of / understanding federation.
- Faresh ( @Faresh@lemmy.ml ) 10•2 years ago
Yeah true, but I think we should also take into account the people that lack understanding of the concept of federation (maybe some kind of tag system on join-lemmy in the future like PeerTube has? And maybe randomized instances by default?)
- pingveno ( @pingveno@lemmy.ml ) 4•2 years ago
a title that is a play on Leningrad and Lemmy
Technically, they just use the same Slavic suffix, -grad, for a town, city, or fortified settlement.
- Faresh ( @Faresh@lemmy.ml ) 4•2 years ago
Yeah, you are probably right, but I thought of leningrad, because both also begin in le.
- OsrsNeedsF2P ( @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ) 13•2 years ago
- Less work for the Lemmy.ml admins (which leaves more room for development)
- Increases the size of the Lemmy federation
- Brings new leaders who will independently work towards Lemmy moving forward
- Thann ( @Thann@lemmy.ml ) 14•2 years ago
what about an instance for porn or sex-workers?
- aworldtowin ( @aworldtowin@lemmy.ml ) 12•2 years ago
I feel like hosting that is a lot more risky legally especially on such a small platform compared to say reddit or pornhub. Probably best for them to not have anything to do with people hosting porn, I’m not sure on the details of the law though.
- pingveno ( @pingveno@lemmy.ml ) 8•2 years ago
Yeah, my impression is that platforms for mature content have been running into that problem time and time again. The potential for child abuse content and revenge porn is high, and much of the remaining content is pirated. Policing all of that is expensive and sometimes scarring. Having volunteers do that sounds unlikely.
- Dessalines ( @dessalines@lemmy.ml ) 8•2 years ago
We’re not going to host anything like that for you.
And also lemmy.ml wouldn’t federate with any instance like that due to the high legal risks involved.
- Echedenyan ( @Echedenyan@lemmy.ml ) 11•2 years ago
Just giving my opinion for the other offering.
It would be great to see a Furry instance. :3c
Updated: a vegan one for organization, teaching and learning would be great too.
- Dessalines ( @dessalines@lemmy.ml ) 9•2 years ago
I too would like a vegan one, especially run by the ppl who run /r/vegancirclejerk. If you want to reach out to them I’d be glad to set one up for them.
- wazowski ( @wazowski@lemmy.ml ) 6•2 years ago
rip /r/dogdiet
never forget o7
enough reddit censorship 😎
- Echedenyan ( @Echedenyan@lemmy.ml ) 3•2 years ago
Do you think you can contact with them?
However, I am mostly interested in teaching and educational activism.
- Echedenyan ( @Echedenyan@lemmy.ml ) 4•2 years ago
I think some people don’t like Fur community ;-;.
- Thann ( @Thann@lemmy.ml ) 11•2 years ago
I would even support creating a centrist or right-leaning (non-extremist) instance to help de-radicalize the conservative sphere
- lobsterasteroid ( @lobsterasteroid@lemmy.ml ) 10•2 years ago
Why don’t liberals just spin up their own instance? Wasn’t that the point of making the code base open?
- Dessalines ( @dessalines@lemmy.ml ) 7•2 years ago
Unfortunately they still just prefer to stay on reddit, and none have wanted to do the very small amount of work to set up their own instance.
- morrowind ( @morrowind@lemmy.ml ) 8•2 years ago
Oh man, I would like to, but I don’t have the technical knowledge
There is no technical knowledge necessary. After one year for the hosting yes, but by then there should be some users with the knowledge and willingness to help.
- altair222 ( @altair222@beehaw.org ) 8•2 years ago
Idk, I’d rather have an open platform that welcomes all good faith argument makers from all the side. But this is lemmy and it’s open for everyone, so do whatever anyone would like to do.
- Vegafjord eo ( @libre_warrior@lemmy.ml ) 5•2 years ago
Allowing liberals and leftists to coexist would kill all nuance. Letting in conservatives would kill all dialogue.
- FruitFactory ( @FruitFactory@lemmy.ml ) 3•2 years ago
I second this. As long they’re not right wing, I don’t think we should be overly concerned with ideological purity.
- pingveno ( @pingveno@lemmy.ml ) 5•2 years ago
But that’s already an ideological purity test. One which excludes a huge chunk of the population of most countries.
- FruitFactory ( @FruitFactory@lemmy.ml ) 7•2 years ago
Yes but Lemmy.ml is explicitly leftist. I accepted that some level of gate-keeping was to be expected. I just don’t see the removal of “libs” to be a necessary part of that.
Simply because this Instance is for leftists doesn’t mean “leftist” needs to be defined narrowly.
That’s my two-cents anyways.
- QuentinCallaghan ( @QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz ) 1•2 years ago
On a side note, we would also like to help with the creation of a general-purpose instance that is less focused on politics than most of the existing instances.
My intention with sopuli.xyz was to create a general-purpose instance with no specific political leaning.
I see, you make a good point. Your instance has been running for a year, but received very few users compared to lemmy.ml. My guess is that you receive new users mainly via join-lemmy.org/instances, is that correct? The problem is that most people only look at the top 2-4 instances, as you can see in the stats (removed everything thats not a Lemmy instance).
Problem is, that list is sorted by most popular and strongly favors established instances. I think it would help a lot of we put 2-4 “recommended instances” at the top of that page, particularly small or general-purpose instances like yours. It would also be pretty simple to have different recommendations for each language, which should help regional instances. There could be a sort of tag system as well, but thats a bit more effort to implement. What do you think?
- QuentinCallaghan ( @QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz ) 1•2 years ago
My guess is that you receive new users mainly via join-lemmy.org/instances, is that correct?
I haven’t really done promotion for my instance so that is correct.
I think it would help a lot of we put 2-4 “recommended instances” at the top of that page, particularly small or general-purpose instances like yours. It would also be pretty simple to have different recommendations for each language, which should help regional instances. There could be a sort of tag system as well, but thats a bit more effort to implement. What do you think?
That would be magnificent!
- pingveno ( @pingveno@lemmy.ml ) 1•2 years ago
I applied for the political instance, but given that sopuli.xyz is already established I would prefer that. I would be happy to help out in any way possible if wanted.