“I speak alternative facts, making others do the work of figuring out what I meant.”
vs.
“I have researched in-depth and know what I am talking about and why.”
Tbf there are probably far-right people who are more like the latter. Just b/c I do not recall ever hearing those arguments does not mean that they don’t exist!
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For the uninformed: The Alt-Right Playbook
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A fascinating series, I cannot agree more. His other works too like protagony/agency. I really hope he can find a way to do more like that, but as a more personal video from him mentioned (not on the channel iirc, search for his name instead) that depends on funding support.
To sum up: it is far easier to tear down than to build up. :-| Also, truth is often stranger than fiction, and much harder to pin down and truly understand.
Really I guess these are not merely two opposing sides of the same argument, but literally represent opposing worldviews.
Real (enough) to someone, I suppose.
Right up until they aren’t anymore. e.g. when someone chooses not to take the vaccine, somehow MANY of those (I wonder if perhaps nearly all?) end up in hospitals, spreading their diseases to others and putting stress on the already-overworked system.
I legit would not judge someone who for whatever reasons decided to withdraw from society, like Amish, and not take the vaccine, but DO social distance for the sake of others, and then die but like… fully by their own, informed & rational choices according to their own valuation of priorities in their life. I fully respect that.
It is the hypocritical nature of those who are not informed, yet act to block others’ access from knowledge and benefits of society, that I am against. These people will judge themselves later on, once they finally cannot escape into their fantasies quite so comfortably, except by then they have already dragged others along with them. In short: they are shocked, Shocked I tell you, SHOCKED to find that actions have consequences. But… they should not have been so shocked?! An ounce of preparation is worth a pound of cure, as the saying goes.
TLDR: it is irresponsible, childish behavior, from adults who should know better.
Both political extremes are as bad as the other. The only sensible course is to allow our political and corporate systems to destroy our environment unchecked while a tiny elite of billionaires funnel up all the remaining wealth of our societies.
You just described centrists
This meme is not glorifying either side.
It just says that the far left says they are far left but the far right denies it.The poster is a Communist, this is a Communist meme.
Your reading comprehension skills are seriously lacking if you believe either that or the comment you’re replying to.
I think a lot of the far-right is just fine with people calling them as far-right, a lot self-identify even as such
Surprisingly not their media though which makes a point to complain about politics in everything and then pretends they aren’t being political about everything they say and do. And claims it’s just interacting with reality as the center. They love to claim that they decide where reality is so they can decide where center is.
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“I’m just rational and I don’t like when people suffer”
Just say you’re an anti-tendency leftist.
“Truth” and “Right-wing” don’t associate.
not true, the current wave of fascism across the world force leftists to not tell their ideology openly, hope things change for good
I have the impression it’s the opposite. The left is becoming more militant to contain the right leaning extremists.
I’m old enough to remember when all Americans thought that the Nazis were the bad guys.
We could do that, or we could kill fascists.
Far right: everything is black and white.
Far left: everything is blue and pink.
Reality:
Both sides see in black and white, but for far different reasons, the far left want to eliminate the concept of profit over people, while the far right want to eliminate people that dont fit inside their rigid and arbitrary ‘moral’ structures.
That’s the left view of left vs right, now do the right view of left vs right.
Did you notice how you cant refute my statement? Leaving your only option to call this a one sided assessment of the status quo, while in actuality it sums up of the state of current affairs quite succinctly. Popcorn do be good though.
No, they were right the first time.
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The right-wing view is “morally superior, upstanding, decent, hard-working” vs. “godless, naive, degenerate traitors and smelly hippies”.
Aye, reverse it and replace godless with god-fearing, and hippies with rednecks, and you nailed it!
Dehumanize “the other” and you can say and do whatever you want, as long as it’s against the other team. Populace Control 101.
Sad to see so many people falling for it so rampantly, but inevitable. It’s just the Internet during American election season at this point.
Nah. If they’re wrong, go ahead and correct them yourself.
I just like to see the lemmings in action.
But, since you asked nicely, I’ll rephrase it as a conservative would. As I think someone should believe what feels right to them, but at least understand the mind and motivations of your opposition, otherwise you will fail in your goals. That’s something not one of the 10 downvoters and 5 commenters have been able to do.
The far left seeks to eradicate the fundamental principles of individual initiative and free enterprise in favor of a collectivist agenda, they’re in favor of legalization of all drugs and the murder of children and don’t understand that a functioning society is a fragile house of cards. They think that children growing up without one or both parents is perfectly fine, and the child will in turn be a well-adjusted adult, regardless. They want to open the borders to let every spy, murderer, and rapist into their neighborhood. The far right aims to preserve traditional values and defend against the erosion of societal norms by those advocating for radical change.
Internet proselytization is this generations’ version of Vietnam-era I’d Love to Change the World.
I’d love to change the world
But I don’t know what to do
So I’ll leave it up to you.
I get it. The state of the world right now is a sad mess. But if you’re going to fight a war you can win, you must first understand the basics.
Okay great job you dressed up some hateful shit with jingoistic buzzwords. What’s your point? We’ve all heard this before, no one is unaware of the rationalizations that conservatives tell themselves to justify their hatred and selfishness as tough love and societal stewardship.
Okay, now what are the rationalizations that progressives/liberals/Democrats/leftists/whatever the preferred term that’s the opposite of ‘conservative’ tell themselves?
Keep in mind, you’re including the entire group here, as you did with ‘conservatives’, so anything any [preferred leftist term] does means it’s representative of the entire group.
Again, what’s your point? You think you’re being clever but you’re just sniping at strawmen with old ammunition.
You lost me at leftists want to murder children…
You clearly don’t understand the beliefs and motives of your political opponents.
You lost me at
Doesn’t matter, because in this thought experiment you’re not the conservative who believes abortion is murder.
Good luck with your
sports team ideological shitpostspolitical memes, I guess.Lmao I understand them far too well.
i think hes saying the issue of abortion.
What about people who are just left?
They’re cowards.
That doesn’t even make any sense.
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You mean like a Market Socialist or something?
Market Socialist
A what?
Someone in favor of a market economy run by worker-owned entities.
There’s also a middle ground between consumer cooperatives which are more on the communal side and worker cooperatives that are more on the libertarian socialist side with Worker Consumer Cooperatives that align both kinds of stakeholders with ownership and management reducing exploitation on both ends.
Oh, I wouldn’t know anything about that.
That’s what I would consider left, but not far-left. I suppose Socialism with Liberal Democracy, as opposed to a more direct or decentralized version of democracy, would be left but not far left as well. Capitalism ends where left begins.
It’s not linear. Anarchist or Libertarian Socialist systems like Syndicalism, Mutualism, Georgism, and Distributism are just as Socialist as Marxism in that they prevent the exploitation of capital accumulation, but they favor direct stakeholder ownership of firms in place of a state or other more communal systems that create an inherent hierarchy of power.
I’m aware that it’s not linear, but it’s also not a 2 axis grid, either. There are generally groups of ideologies based on what class they represent, and the methods they use.
Left and right are more for shorthand.
Capitalism ends where left begins.
I’m not sure if you’re gatekeeping or just generalizing.
Neither. The left/right divide is Socialism/Capitalism. There are various Overton Windows, ie what is considered left or right when compared to an areas median, like Liberalism being left of the American median despite being a right-wing, Capitalist ideology.
Anarchism, Communism, Marxism, and other forms of Socialism are leftist, while Liberalism, Social Democracy, and fascism are rightist.
Between Dale and Amelia, the Earnhart family has been through a lot.
I feel like it’s rather stupid to simplify everyone into 2 big groups. Am I far right?
This isn’t simplifying people into 2 big groups, it’s talking about 2 big groups among many, many, many groups.
Isn’t the image implying that people who says they are not left or right are actually far right?
No, it’s saying that far-right people claim they aren’t right or left, and just care about the truth, as a means to distance their image from their actual views.
Some people genuinely aren’t left or right, those people are generally Social Democrats, ie Capitalism with strong social safety nets and some level of government ownership of some key industries. However, this isn’t perceived as being a centrist view due to the Overton Window, ie in America, Liberalism, a right wing ideology, is the status quo, with a liberal party and a fascist party.
The logic chain is a bit different.
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That is because their truth is embarrassing.
