- Lemongrab ( @Lemongrab@lemmy.one ) 35•3 months ago
Is this browser private? Does it implement proper sandboxing and have any methods of anti-fingerprinting? I hope it eventually see the implementation of a robust content blocker. What makes this related to privacy and not instead just open source. While it is nice to see an independent web engine, if there is no method of anti-fingerprinting, the privacy of this browser is severely limited.
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English3•3 months ago
It isn’t done yet. They are targeting 2026
- Lemongrab ( @Lemongrab@lemmy.one ) 8•3 months ago
My point exactly. It isn’t ready and OP gave no context for why this relates to privacy. Better suited for the open source community on Lemmy.
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English2•3 months ago
It is good for freedom of choice which ultimately is good for privacy
- Lemongrab ( @Lemongrab@lemmy.one ) 1•3 months ago
All I was saying is it isn’t ready for use as a browser, it states on the github that it is in pre-alpha. It doesn’t have the threat model goal of protecting fingerprintable metrics. Using this over security and privacy hardened firefox, even in the future once all the web standards are supported, will worsen your privacy. There needs to be intentional development of anti-fingerprinting measures.
I like choice, this isn’t ready and OP should have added more context then just a title and a github. This is not a privacy browser, this is a tech demo.
- refalo ( @refalo@programming.dev ) 2•3 months ago
I don’t think anyone was trying to imply that it was ready. Of course once it gets more mature then things like privacy will likely start to become more integrated.
- Lemongrab ( @Lemongrab@lemmy.one ) 1•3 months ago
Making a post in the privacy community with the tittle “truly independent browser” and a github link makes it seem that this project is related to privacy somehow. Nothing on the github has anything to do with privacy. There is no reason to believe the Dev has any intention to add privacy protection features. It is just another web engine. The only reason gecko has a lot of its anti fingerprinting is because of upstreamed features from the Tor browser, not because gecko’s developers engineered them. So my question is still “how does this relate to the privacy community instead of the open source community”.
- refalo ( @refalo@programming.dev ) 2•3 months ago
I think some would consider the mere fact that it is independent, to be a positive for privacy in ways other than fingerprinting. I understand not everyone agrees, but I can see why some would think this.
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English1•3 months ago
I posted the website a while back. By the way they got more than a million dollars in funding and are looking for sponsors.
- Dymonika ( @Dymonika@beehaw.org ) 1•3 months ago
*sets reminder now*
- pedroapero ( @pedroapero@lemmy.ml ) 22•3 months ago
63.3K commits from 1K+ contributors and still pre-alpha, it’s amazing what a nightmare web browsers have become!
- odd ( @Dungrad@feddit.org ) 21•3 months ago
servo.org: am I a joke to you?
- Upstream7564 ( @Upstream7564@discuss.tchncs.de ) 5•3 months ago
I think as more competition and choices we have, so better.
- MonkderDritte ( @MonkderDritte@feddit.de ) 5•3 months ago
Dillo sobs lonely.
- refalo ( @refalo@programming.dev ) 3•3 months ago
literally never heard of it.
- toastal ( @toastal@lemmy.ml ) 18•3 months ago
Independent but then their coms are purely proprietary, US-based sludge. If you think folks should be contributing to your project, you should be using technology where you can where you & your contributors can patch & make better too. There is no good reason to be limited to only Microsoft Github & Discord.
Don’t get it wrong: I have followed for years & want the project to succeed, but this reliance on corporations & not giving your users a private option where they can control their data needs to stop. Normies have ignorance excuse but software makers do not as they generally know better about how these tech firms operate.
- Einar ( @original_reader@lemm.ee ) 17•3 months ago
Ambitious.
- rwhitisissle ( @rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml ) 10•3 months ago
Languages: C++
Yeah, hard pass on looking at that code base.
- JustMarkov ( @JustMarkov@lemmy.ml ) English4•3 months ago
From their website:
Why build a new browser in C++ when safer and more modern languages are available?
Ladybird started as a component of the SerenityOS hobby project, which only allows C++. The choice of language was not so much a technical decision, but more one of personal convenience. Andreas was most comfortable with C++ when creating SerenityOS, and now we have almost half a million lines of modern C++ to maintain.
However, now that Ladybird has forked and become its own independent project, all constraints previously imposed by SerenityOS are no longer in effect. We are actively evaluating a number of alternatives and will be adding a mature successor language to the project in the near future. This process is already quite far along, and prototypes exist in multiple languages.- rwhitisissle ( @rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml ) 2•3 months ago
I’m not criticizing the choice of C++. I just don’t want to look at the code because I don’t personally like the language.
- refalo ( @refalo@programming.dev ) 2•3 months ago
Same for me with Rust. I don’t like to look at it and it’s a lot harder for me to understand (and hence contribute to or modify), so I avoid it.
- foremanguy ( @foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml ) 5•3 months ago
That could be great! Alternative to firefox!
- BlanK0 ( @BlanK0@lemmy.ml ) 3•3 months ago
At least might help compete with Firefox to improve Foss browsers.