Bonus points if it’s not just multiple books by people with basically the same ideology.
“Wow, you’ve read Marx and Engels? That must mean you have a thorough understanding on all things political!” /s
Have you read Marx or Engels? What have you read?
Not the point I was trying to make.
How does one make a point using an example they know nothing about? To be clear, I agree with you, but as someone who has read a fair amount of M&E and know a ton of people who have read M&E, they are among the top 1% of readers in terms of sheer volume, but also curiosity and intellectual honesty.
Combined with the fact that the vast majority of Marx and Engels was social science, not ideological polemic, I get the impression that you are giving advice that you haven’t actually taken. Which would be fine, we are all contradictory beings to some extent. But it does beg the question.
And if you had read them, then I would want to know your insights on what you had read
That’s a lot of conclusions you jump to there, buddy.
I simply got the feeling that I got to a real Marx-head, when mentioning him and Engels in passing gets that reaction. Since I don’t particularly enjoy these kinds of conversations, I backed off.
I’ve read a bit of both Marx and Engels and watched a lecture on Marxism. I enjoy parts of Marx and don’t really like what I’ve read of Engel’s original work., is that enough?
What have you read of Engels? Socialism: Utopian and Scientific is one of my favorites. Other than some of his letters, forewords, and some essays, I’ve been really wanting to read The Conditions of the Working Class in England, since it’s referenced in Capital; and I think I have something else saved by him on my Kobo, can’t think of it ATM. I think Engels is really easy to grasp; Marx is a phenomenal writer but unless you’re in the mood to read about 1. Economics 2. Dense academic history or 3. A blistering criticism of some “Young Hegelian” scholar like Feuerbach or Bruno Bauer its hard to find something of his to just easy-read. The Manifesto is pretty accessible but it was mostly written by Engels, the two men were really one author most of the time, and I’ve read the manifesto several times and while its good its not my favorite work.
Sorry for coming off confrontational, but you picked two very good and influential thinkers to target. You could have said “don’t just read Malcolm Gladwell and Sam Harris” or “Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro,” who are all hacks, but very popular authors; whereas Marx and Engels have fallen out of fashion. It’s conspicuous, is all.
Geez the downvote brigade is out in full force
Dude, I told you that I’m not into that kind of discussion. And it turned out exactly the way I was afraid it would. I think that’s why you got downvoted, btw.
Also, you sound like the kind of guy I was making fun of in my first comment.
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I’m reading all six Dune books at once and I’m hella confused
It might be helpful if you finished one book first before you start another.
Nonsense! Only the parallel experience will fully submerge you into the lore! /j
Edit: Also: woosh
Only the parallel experience will fully submerge you into the lore!
That’s what David Lynch said
Start with the Kama Sutra.
It’s great in audiobook form.
I just watched the movie when it came out to theatres.
7/10
I give it 6/9
Getting an EReader has increased the rate at which I read drastically. Reading becomes less of a task and more of a convenient way to spend time.
Reading Marx and Engels is also a great primer for anyone getting into Leftist theory.
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/audiobooks.html?
Any other sources?
Mobilism dot org
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I’ve just remembered that like 10 years ago my go-to answer for people bothering me at work with my headphones on just to ask me what Im listening to (wtf??), was just that - “To the Communist Manifesto ofc!”
Sometimes I would spice it up with like a Communist Manifesto - Mein Campf remix or last Sundays black mass I missed, praised be Lucy, the bringer of light.
I’ve def trained people not to ask me stupid or personal questions unless they actually mean it.
I don’t understand nor know how to do small talk, ok?I do recommend audiobooks! If you haven’t tried one yet, please do so.
are the books fucking or are they about fucking? are pictures included?
Audiobooks take away the imaginative ideas of the readers experience of the tales. I like to imagine for myself the feelings of the characters in their given situations.
I disagree. While books might be more imaginative, as you can read the lines the way you like, most of the times, at least in fiction, the emotions are written out. Oftentimes, because of that I need to go back because I read the paragraph “wrong”. And that’s just one part of the imaginative experience. While listening to an audiobook the way you see the setting, the characters and their actions is still entirely up to you. It’s fine that you, personally, prefer books. But that doesn’t make audiobooks bad.
Yeah each to his/her/its own.
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Highly recommend:
Crucible of War Einstein’s Telescope. 1176 BC The other side of history: daily life in the Ancient worldSorry Carl, I ain’t reading shit. I might listen to an audiobook, but I’m not promising anything
Here you are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld#Bibliography
