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Karna ( KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml )  to Privacy@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

Tor says it’s "still safe" amid reports of police deanonymizing users

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Tor says it’s "still safe" amid reports of police deanonymizing users

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Karna ( KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml )  to Privacy@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago
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  • schnurrito ( schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    All VPNs do is change who has your browsing data: your ISP or the VPN operator. You may or may not trust either of them not to keep records, in either case you have no way of verifying this.

    • HelixDab2 ( HelixDab2@lemm.ee ) 
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      ISPs definitely keep records. At least some VPNs claim that they don’t, and that their networks are set up in such a way that they can’t. Some organizations claim to validate the claims of the VPNs, but it’s unclear if they’re trustworthy.

      So your choice is to use something that definitely keeps logs, or to use a company that at least says that they don’t/can’t.

      • communism ( communism@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Yes, and there’s also the fact that some VPNs such as Mullvad let you be anonymous so even if Mullvad were keeping logs, if you pay privately they have no way of knowing whose logs they are (unless the content itself of your internet history reveals your identity). Meanwhile your ISP definitely knows who you are, and absolutely will collaborate with the police if asked to.

        • electric_nan ( electric_nan@lemmy.ml ) 
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          You can pay anonymously, but if you regularly connect from your home IP address, it hardly matters.

          • sunzu2 ( sunzu2@thebrainbin.org ) BannedBanned from community
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            I think the point here is to deny ISP data to sell.

            • electric_nan ( electric_nan@lemmy.ml ) 
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              Yeah I use mullvad for mostly that reason myself.

      • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 
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        The VPN company themselves may not keep logs. However, they might be a little black box somewhere in the data center…

        • NauticalNoodle ( NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml ) 
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          As Proton made evident, VPNs can be legally compelled to start keeping logs on specific accounts as the result of a court order. So if you’re gonna do something incriminating, then I guess you should create a new account each time.

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