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Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT
heavyboots ( @heavyboots@lemmy.ml ) English18•6 months agoBecause Trump is so likely to be a better choice for solving the Israel-Gaza crisis, lol.
TheOubliette ( @TheOubliette@lemmy.ml ) 21•6 months agoWhen you can’t even call it a genocide of Gazans by Israel you should rethink whether you should even comment.
Cowbee [he/they] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 16•6 months agoNobody said that, neither choice is going to solve it so it’s better to abandon both if genocide is a red line for you.
heavyboots ( @heavyboots@lemmy.ml ) English6•6 months agoAha, so just don’t participate. Cool cool.
Cowbee [he/they] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 9•6 months agoI’m all on-board with revolution.
BurningRiver ( @BurningRiver@beehaw.org ) 5•6 months agoIf Trump wins, there will certainly be a revolution. But probably not the kind you’re looking for.
Cowbee [he/they] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 7•6 months agoI don’t think continuation of the ever-worsening status quo counts as a revolution
BurningRiver ( @BurningRiver@beehaw.org ) 2•6 months agoWhat about Trump could possibly make you think that he would continue the status quo in any way, shape or form? He already publically said he would turn the military on anyone who opposed him.
We also know how he feels about anyone who isn’t a straight, white, Christian male, so how anyone arrives at the conclusion that things wouldn’t be catastrophically worse for everyone outside that demographic is a complete mystery to me.
I’m tired of the argument here that voting for a third party will make some sort of positive statement, so just do what you have to do. When Trump wins and starts deporting (or worse) Muslims currently in this country, they can all go see if Jill Stein will save them. The status quo sucks, but it’s also a lot harder to campaign for change after they’ve been expelled from the country.
For what it’s worth, I am 100% against the genocide in Gaza and I want the bombs to stop being delivered. However, it’s easier to rally and protest for change without someone aspiring to be a dictator in power.
Cowbee [he/they] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 5•6 months agoWhat about Trump could possibly make you think that he would continue the status quo in any way, shape or form? He already publically said he would turn the military on anyone who opposed him.
America is a dying empire, that is the status quo.
We also know how he feels about anyone who isn’t a straight, white, Christian male, so how anyone arrives at the conclusion that things wouldn’t be catastrophically worse for everyone outside that demographic is a complete mystery to me.
We also know that the dems haven’t been protecting anyone from republicans.
I’m tired of the argument here that voting for a third party will make some sort of positive statement, so just do what you have to do. When Trump wins and starts deporting (or worse) Muslims currently in this country, they can all go see if Jill Stein will save them. The status quo sucks, but it’s also a lot harder to campaign for change after they’ve been expelled from the country.
For what it’s worth, I am 100% against the genocide in Gaza and I want the bombs to stop being delivered. However, it’s easier to rally and protest for change without someone aspiring to be a dictator in power.
Big talk for someone arguing against protesting for change.
Dessalines ( @dessalines@lemmy.ml ) 3•6 months agoThey say that every time, and people are fooled each new election. The US system is not a democracy, but it’s really good at convincing it’s citizens that they live in one.
PowerCrazy ( @PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) English11•6 months agoDamn, that’s fucked up, sounds like the democrats should do something other then support genocidal states if they want that support so desperately.
eldavi ( @eldavi@lemmy.ml ) 9•6 months agothe stark contrast between the .world version of this post and this one makes me doubt that the lemmyverse has any stamina.
Cowbee [he/they] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 21•6 months agoIt’s becoming multipolar, with right-wingers on the Lemmy.world side and left wingers on the Lemmy.ml side, and the various instances aligned with each and neither. The Lemmy.world moderators are also Zionists that allow hasbara but censor comments that show the complicity of the Democrats in genocide as “misinformation.”
You mean the reaction (downvotes) in the .world instances, right?
I think the contrast reflects the real diversity of opinions, and not lack of stamina. Of course I am disappointed with the downvotes and the hostile comments to anything that might oppose Harris. But the level of discourse in Lemmy is a lot better than Twitter, FB, etc.
So I’m going to keep posting these to as many communities as I can. :-)
technocrit ( @technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 7•6 months agoThis one weird trick will make white libs cry.