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Quite a good list, although without any real surprises, except for the cheeky inclusion of a recent fan-made PC port. I’m glad Kerbal Space Program is on it, but a few other personal favorites (and candidates for best game of all time) are absent, like The Talos Principle, BeamNG.drive, NEO Scavenger, World of Goo, Mafia, Machinarium and Gothic II. Jets’n’Guns - a very early Indie masterpiece of a 2D space shooter - as well, but it’s a bit too obscure for these kinds of lists. I’ll stop here before I accidentally create my own top 100.
Are your favorite PC games well-represented by this list?
- Schmuppes ( @Schmuppes@lemmy.today ) 5•3 hours ago
Missing No One Lives Forever (2). Those games were just fantastic.
- Rose ( @Rose@lemmy.zip ) 2•3 hours ago
CS2 being ranked higher than Siege and Fortnite is really misguided. It’s been almost the same game since before the internet. Siege was a welcome improvement on the same formula. Fortnite continues to innovate with new games and new modes, all appealing to a wide range of people and skill groups. Even its main mode sees drastic changes with each season. It keeps things fresh, which is vital for a live service game like those three.
- dwindling7373 ( @dwindling7373@feddit.it ) English1•21 minutes ago
This but ironically.
- Crotaro ( @Crotaro@beehaw.org ) 7•7 hours ago
I fully understand someone thinking x game deserves to be there instead of y but I think this is a great list that spans most genres and serves as a wonderful stepping stone for exploration within gaming.
If I give this list to someone who doesn’t know yet, what kind of games they like, this list will show them great games from all major “eras” and all kinds of dev studio sizes/budgets. And once they have played, say, KotoR 2 (since it’s in the same list that recommends new and good games like Baldur’s Gate 3, they are more likely to check out other old but great games like Gothic 1 and 2 (and, of course, KotoR 1).
- Sʏʟᴇɴᴄᴇ ( @Sylence@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 3•2 hours ago
The thing for me wasn’t so much the game choice but the placement. It feels like they took a big bag of 100 of the best games and randomly picked them out one at a time. If you start to ask is Y really better than X on this list then it starts to make less and less sense.
- Zozano ( @Zozano@lemy.lol ) English11•9 hours ago
No Terraria :(
- kittenzrulz123 ( @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•7 hours ago
How is Doom only in tenth place and the original Half-Life isn’t even close to top (edit: I just checked, Half-Life isn’t even on the list).
- Lojcs ( @Lojcs@lemm.ee ) 2•4 hours ago
On the other hand, how is doom even on the list? This isn’t a ‘most influential games’ list. Surely the 10th best game in 2024 isn’t Doom 1993? Their scoring system (Quality 60%, Importance 15%, Hotness 15%, Playability 10%) makes sense to me, but how they assign those scores is baffling.
Take doom and doom eternal for example:
Doom 1993: Q 8.41 - I 9.99 - H 6.81 - P 6.81
Doom eternal: Q 8.00 - 7.45 - H 6.09 - P 8.45How is cardboard enemies, simplest damage mechanics, story made of 2 still pictures and exposition text, and single axis camera control higher quality than any modern shooter? And in what universe could a 30 year old game be called hot??
- kittenzrulz123 ( @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 1•2 hours ago
The modding scene keeps it hot
- Lojcs ( @Lojcs@lemm.ee ) 1•2 hours ago
Maybe they keep it fresh for people that already like it, but I haven’t seen anyone excited to play doom due to its mods
- Vodulas [they/them] ( @Vodulas@beehaw.org ) 5•7 hours ago
They set a rule that only one game from a series can be on the list. Half-Life 2 probably just beat 1 in the very subjective scoring.
- addie ( @addie@feddit.uk ) 5•3 hours ago
Nah - Doom (DOS): and Doom Eternal are on there, as are Baldur’s Gates 2 and 3.
- Mac ( @Mac@mander.xyz ) 3•8 hours ago
I don’t usually give much thought to these lists but Minecraft deserves it’s place, undoubtedly.
- Linktank ( @Linktank@lemmy.today ) 8•12 hours ago
This list is offensive to say the least. Valheim at 100 and then goes on to show like 60ish games that are shit in comparison to that masterpiece.
- Vodulas [they/them] ( @Vodulas@beehaw.org ) 3•7 hours ago
There are not even 10 bad games on that list. Might not be to your taste, but that does not make them shit
- Julian ( @julianh@lemm.ee ) English5•12 hours ago
If the entire list isn’t outer wilds its bs.
- frank ( @frank@sopuli.xyz ) 2•7 hours ago
It’s somehow not on the list? That’s actually unbelievable
- Vodulas [they/them] ( @Vodulas@beehaw.org ) 7•7 hours ago
Good, because it is number 90
- frank ( @frank@sopuli.xyz ) 1•7 hours ago
I’m an idiot, no clue how I missed that
- Vodulas [they/them] ( @Vodulas@beehaw.org ) 2•7 hours ago
Nah, it is a long list. I missed Dishonored 2 on there.
- SmoochyPit ( @SmoochyPit@lemmy.ca ) 3•11 hours ago
This list was really hard for my phone to view. It’s an older phone, so that’s probably why, but it kept freezing and reloading.
- Vodulas [they/them] ( @Vodulas@beehaw.org ) 6•12 hours ago
KOTOR 2 on the list instead of KOTOR is an odd choice, but I do not hate it. With the missing content mod, that game is great
- TommySalami ( @TommySalami@lemm.ee ) 1•48 minutes ago
I prefer 2 to 1, primarily because the choices are not as blatantly good/evil and it feels like they have more impact. I also think the character creation and items are more fleshed out. Just a shame it didn’t get the polish it deserved at launch. 1 definitely feels more “Star Wars”-y, though.
- thingsiplay ( @thingsiplay@beehaw.org ) 7•13 hours ago
No Overwatch in the entire list? Final Fantasy 14 the only FF in the list? No Dota 2 or Leage of Legends? No Batman game?
I know its just opinions and fun, but I’m just very surprised, not angry or anything like that.
- zod000 ( @zod000@lemmy.ml ) 2•37 minutes ago
Regarding the FF games, I think it’s actually fine considering some of the more notable omissions. Most FF games didn’t get released anywhere near when they were relevant.
- thingsiplay ( @thingsiplay@beehaw.org ) 1•5 minutes ago
Sure, but how do you explain then Persona 5 Royal then on place 5 then? Final Fantasy 7 Remake got higher ratings, I think sold more and was surely more popular on PC, right? Red Dead Redemption 2 was also released on PC when it anywhere near its initial relevance. Metal Gear Solid 3 or Mass Effect Legendary Edition is even worse, because those games are much much older.
Also Portal behind Slay the Spire? Team Fortress 2 34 places behind Hunt: Showdown 1896? So strange! These Valve games were revolutionary and defined their genre with huge number of players and fanbase.
My point is just, that the given argumentation here doesn’t hold up to me. But that is what you get if you ask people for their opinion. It’s just that and it will always surprise you.
- Ludz ( @Ludz@lemmy.ml ) 4•8 hours ago
True, OK everyone has its own preferences but indeed ff7 missing looks surprising, didn’t see lot of city builders (not mentioning wolfenstein, fable, populous, Dk…)
- Skelemental ( @Skelemental@mastodon.gamedev.place ) 13•13 hours ago
@thingsiplay @DdCno1 this list is actually wild. Random flash in the pan games high up but also a bunch of evergreen classics and old games that were revolutionary but largely unplayed today while also missing some of the most popular games on PC. Not sure what this list is supposed to be except maybe engagement bait.
- Vodulas [they/them] ( @Vodulas@beehaw.org ) 13•13 hours ago
All lists like this are incredibly subjective and by definition about engagement. I wouldn’t call it bait, but it was definitely created for engagement. That is not necessarily a bad thing since it can generate some fun discussions.
- 50MYT ( @50MYT@aussie.zone ) 8•13 hours ago
No Factorio either.
This article may as well have been written by AI.
- Vodulas [they/them] ( @Vodulas@beehaw.org ) 11•13 hours ago
I’m not AI and I really dislike Factorio. I would say it is a bit of a niche game, but Rimworld also seems niche. Probably just not to anyone at PC Gamer’s taste.
- TehPers ( @TehPers@beehaw.org ) English8•12 hours ago
Factorio is not for everyone, but it’s also one of the all stars of its genre. With the upcoming expansion in a couple weeks, it’ll probably eat another few hundred of my free hours over the next few months, and I know I’m not alone on this one.
- Vodulas [they/them] ( @Vodulas@beehaw.org ) 5•11 hours ago
Oh, totally. But the folks making the list might not even have thought of it if none of them play it.
- 50MYT ( @50MYT@aussie.zone ) 2•12 hours ago
You wrote the article?
- Vodulas [they/them] ( @Vodulas@beehaw.org ) 6•11 hours ago
No, just saying it would not have made my top 100 list. Seemed like a funny thing to say it is an AI list because of not having Factorio
- Vodulas [they/them] ( @Vodulas@beehaw.org ) 5•12 hours ago
The Overwatch 2 update was pretty widely hated, so that might be clouding things. I supposed they did put Destiny 2 on there though. It is for sure weird to not see FFVII or an Arkham game. Or hell, Dishonored.
Edit: Whoops missed Dishonored 2.