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 I'm_All_NEET:3   ( @SpaceFox@lemmy.ml )  to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 11 months ago

Why is/are Scandinavian/Nordic countries so left-wing?

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Why is/are Scandinavian/Nordic countries so left-wing?

 I'm_All_NEET:3   ( @SpaceFox@lemmy.ml )  to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 11 months ago
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  •  ExtremeDullard   ( @ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    You must be American to ask something like this.

    America is so damn red the rest of the world looks ike a solid shade of blue.

    •  davel [he/him]   ( @davel@lemmy.ml ) 
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      If only

    •  pmk   ( @pmk@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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      In sweden red is the color of left wing parties, and blue is the right wing parties.

      •  Random Dent   ( @CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Same for the UK and Canada too.

      •  FippleStone   ( @FippleStone@aussie.zone ) 
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        Same as Australia, mostly

        •  pulpy   ( @pulpy@feddit.it ) 
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          Definitely the same in Italy

          •  Didros   ( @Didros@beehaw.org ) 
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            Yeah, same in America, but they don’t have a left wing party, so the far right party uses red.

  •  tht   ( @tht@social.pwned.page ) 
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    They are just capitalist with some welfare, nothing left-wing about them

  •  superkret   ( @superkret@feddit.org ) 
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    In a cold climate, those who preferred “every man for himself” died a long time ago.

    •  davel [he/him]   ( @davel@lemmy.ml ) 
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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-so_story

  •  bstix   ( @bstix@feddit.dk ) 
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    In Denmark it happened rather quickly and less than 200 years ago. Soo many things happened in the late 1800s after the abandonment of absolute monarchy in 1849, that I’m not going to pretend that I can explain it all in a comment.

    So… while Denmark has a long history with vikings and kings and stuff, our constitution is relatively new and written around the same time as Karl Marx and the industrial revolution redefining what work is.

    If you ever get around Copenhagen, the workers museum is well worth a visit for an insight into the specific events that lead to the democratic socialist government. It was a long hard process and tightly tied to the history of worker’s unions.

    Very briefly told, it was a worldwide class war. The events in Scandinavia were heavily influenced by the “bloody week” in Paris in 1871 and the establishment of the world wide organisation First International.

    It culminated in a several months long lock out in 1899, which eventually gave workers the right to organize for collective agreements. This was only made possible with support from workers from all over the world.

    One of the most amazing things about it was how they even managed to organize anyone at all in a time where all workers were dirt poor and only the owning class had any freedom and income at all. The founders of the first unions realized that it would be an uphill battle and were brutally honest about it. They told workers “It might take several generations to succeed, but it needs to be done, so that your grand children will have a chance for a better life.”, and yet they managed to organize almost everyone.

    It succeeded though and also much faster. One of the three founders of the socialist democratic party lived long enough to see it become the largest political party in the country in 1924 - a position it held until 2001.

  •  ivn   ( @ivn@jlai.lu ) 
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    Is this left-wing?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilisation_in_Sweden

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Institute_for_Racial_Biology

    •  ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠   ( @Nemo@slrpnk.net ) 
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      I’d say the Nordics are somewhat economically left-wing.

      They’re not socially progressive, no.

      •  frank   ( @frank@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        Compared to the US, I’d say they’re extremely socially progressive.

        Healthcare, low gender pay gap, higher “minimum” wages (I know there’s no legal minimum most places but there are commonly accepted lowest wages), very low homelessness, very LGBT+ accepting.

        Socially progressive enough? Not for my tastes. But it’s a lot better than the US in social systems

  •  jlow (he/him)   ( @jlow@beehaw.org ) 
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    Are they?

    •  The Menemen   ( @menemen@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Yeah. Sweden Democrats or the state of danish social democrats? Left wing?

  •  That_Devil_Girl   ( @That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Reality has a left wing bias.

    Its a joke, but not really. If you base your government on the facts of reality, it tends to be perceived as “left wing.”

  •  UltraGiGaGigantic   ( @UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Their capitalism has yet to enter late stage. It’s only a matter of time.

  •  Dessalines   ( @dessalines@lemmy.ml ) 
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    They aren’t:

    • What about social democracy / democratic socialism / the Nordic model? Isn’t Sweden socialist?
    • On the unraveling of the Nordic welfare states: increasing inequality and forced austerity.
    • Scandinavia’s covert role in western imperialism
    • Why can’t you acheive socialism through voting in our current democracies?
  •  ribboo   ( @ribboo@lemm.ee ) 
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    We’re slowly working towards becoming right wing

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