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Lugh ( Lugh@futurology.today ) M to Futurology@futurology.todayEnglish · 2 years ago

Meta is banning discussion of the 'Network State' concept; a Silicon Valley Oligarch-funded idea to replace American democracy with corporate government.

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Meta is banning discussion of the 'Network State' concept; a Silicon Valley Oligarch-funded idea to replace American democracy with corporate government.

www.usermag.co

Lugh ( Lugh@futurology.today ) M to Futurology@futurology.todayEnglish · 2 years ago
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Meta rep flagged 'critiques of tech industry figures' as 'sensitive or controversial content'
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Meta said that the journalist "should never have received this response," but the incident set off a wave of concern over censorship online.
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  • magnetosphere ( magnetosphere@fedia.io ) 
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    Streisand effect: I had never heard of the “network state” until now. Uh, thanks for being such an asshole, Zuck!

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      I just found out like a week ago. Look up techno feudalism. Apparently these guys have been talking about it for a long time.

  • segabased ( segabased@lemmy.zip ) 
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    This man has a bunker and everything. He’s scared shitless and he is ready to hide. Their assets need to be seized and accounts drained

    • SmokeytheBeard1 ( SmokeytheBeard1@lemm.ee ) 
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      His bunker on a Hawaiian Island. Dude really wants to be far away from everything when shit pops off.

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        What I’m hearing is that after we overthrow the government and Destroy capitalism we have to dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial

        • imvii ( imvii@lemmy.ca ) 
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          dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial

          Just weld the door closed. Problem solved.

        • SmokeytheBeard1 ( SmokeytheBeard1@lemm.ee ) 
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          I’ve never been to Hawaii, but I’ll show up for that 😎

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    We are already living in a country being run by Elon Musk.

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      corporation*

  • Sauerkraut ( Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    Reddit is shadow banning people like crazy as well. This is scary

    • melpomenesclevage ( melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) BannedBanned
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    • Ye be warned 🏴‍☠️ ( undone@lemm.ee ) 
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      • dumblederp ( dumblederp@aussie.zone ) 
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        Logout and browse your user profile page via old.Reddit it’ll say banned or suspended.

        • Ye be warned 🏴‍☠️ ( undone@lemm.ee ) 
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      • Crazazy [hey hi! :D] ( Crazazy@feddit.nl ) 
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        How do you find out?

        I assume looking at reddit through an incognito window and seeing none of your posts appearing

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  • WatDabney ( WatDabney@fedia.io ) 
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    The Network State is just feudalism updated to accommodate a new set of vile and toxic elitist shitheads.

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    Delete your facebook products.

    If you know someone who works at facebook, try to convince them to leave.

    If you see someone who’s in a leadership position at Facebook bleeding out, perhaps after a car accident because their brakes were sabotaged, let them die.

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      • jjjalljs ( jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ) 
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        i’ve been trying to get people to switch platforms for years. it’s not easy. if only people cared more about things than they want convenience…

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    Shut down and delete your data on your US tech accounts. Their business’s are worthless without our accounts.

    It’s a process, start today! With the easy ones and work towards the hard ones.

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      Agreed.

  • rumba ( rumba@lemmy.zip ) 
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    Everyone needs to GTFO facebook. We can hardly do it because every other HOA and School PTA is there, but we get stop using messenger and stop having personal discussions over there.

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      • rumba ( rumba@lemmy.zip ) 
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        Oh they can’t force you. You can always rely on the pta just to send you papers home and backpacks and you don’t really need to talk to your neighbors or have them report problems in a public forum

        There’s enough value for these places that I still go back to Facebook for it, they’re not forcing me. They just make it worth it.

        • grrgyle ( grrgyle@slrpnk.net ) 
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          Yeah that’s them network effects

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        I agree that it needs to happen but contacting these places and asking them for an alternative is a lot like contacting a deep sea tube worm and asking it to learn brain surgery.

        They’re probably capable of moving from one social platform to another, But it’s a lot of work and they’re destroying their network every time so they’re highly resistant.

        If Apple wasn’t such a pain in the ass about notification services We could probably crowdsource NTFY and let everyone use it for schools non-profits and such

        The best we could expect us for them to move to Blue sky. Health in my case half of them just recently moved off Twitter.

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      • rumba ( rumba@lemmy.zip ) 
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        WhatsApp is a serious problem. There are quite a number of countries that are running a lot of their business through it.

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      I was fortunate that my partner never used Facebook, so I got to hold “communication with their sibling/child” over their heads and get the family chat onto signal. That was my last thing I had to do before I could delete my account

      The most fun was sending a message to each of the Facebook friends: hi (name) I’m deleting my Facebook account, if you want to contact me online I can be reached on signal at (signal ID)

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        My wife and I were on Facebook Messenger a lot. Then she started pointing out every time we would talk about any topic she would get ads for it. I talked her into using signal.

        We added the teenager into it, now the only serious problem I have is the little one could stand to be on the family chat in signal but he doesn’t have a phone number.

        I tried making an account for him with my Google voice number, for some reason it refused on his Wi-Fi only tablet. So I made him an account using my real phone number, then remade my account using my Google voice number on my phone which worked, But now his signal account flips back and forth between his name and my name and it’s just very confused. It’s good enough but I wish there was some way you could do signal without having to do a phone number. Especially a sub account for kids you know…

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          I thought I heard recently about signal allowing a different ID system, but I think that’s about not having to share your phone number, as against them IDing you with a phone number which I expect they will keep doing

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            signal allowing a different ID system

            It used to surface your number to all your contacts, now they only see your handle.

            Still have to use a phone number to sign up.

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    Oh, this is the 15-minute cities they’re scared of.

    Fucking insane how these people twist a good idea in to something evil, then support the evil version of that idea.

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      I think they do that on purpose. These powerful players not the idiots voting for them.

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    Just another reason to abandon social networks owned by big tech companies and moving to decentralized open source social networks.

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    I’m curious what people think of the author, Taylor Lorenz? I noticed I have her blocked on some social media and couldn’t remember why. I searched a little and found she had referred to Biden as a war criminal on WaPo, just prior to the election. Probably when I started blocking everything I didn’t think was generative in terms of news. I still think it’s a shit-take but am wondering if I’m just being thin-skinned? Is she a decent writer? Should we be following her? This is definitely an important story to follow. Anyhow, I have moved onto getting my stories from rss readers and some social media, no paid subscriptions to legacy MSM. So, scrutinizing individual writers becomes more critical.

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      She’s been caught in some stealth edits and other unethical practises when trying to push a specific narrative. I don’t trust her reporting very much after following her work during the Depp-Heard trial in '22. It is unfortunate that her need to push her, or her publishers, agenda appears to be more important than honest reporting, and I’m saying this as a very left-leaning, queer person.

      (//Edited to correct the year of the Depp-Heard trial. Covid times were strange and it all blends together.)

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        Ah, now that does start to ring a bell. Thank you.

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      Here’s a similar article discussing the techno-libertarian movement from a different author. Covers similar themes and explicitly discusses the Network State as an ideology

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        Thank you.

    • Mycatiskai ( Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca ) 
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      She might be the one that Libs of Tiktok has an unhealthy stalkery lady boner for.

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    He doesn’t want his plans posted.

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    fuck facebook

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