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Spectre ( Confidant6198@lemmy.ml )  to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago
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  • Sibshops ( Sibshops@lemm.ee ) 
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    Good enough reason to boycott coke products, anyway.

    • Cowbee [he/they] ( Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 
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      The funding of Death Squads in Colombia is a better reason IMO but this works too, haha

      • naeap ( naeap@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        Didn’t knew about that one
        What’s up with that?

        Would have thought that a legal trade of coca leaves would work out reasonable…well, I’m naive it seems

        • Kwakigra ( Kwakigra@beehaw.org ) 
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          Coca Cola is an old company with a long and dark history. If they appear reasonable, it’s only because they’ve used the massive weight of their resources to create an international marketing campaign over decades to make themselves appear benign and refreshing.

        • Cowbee [he/they] ( Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 
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          It was a way to break up worker organizing and strikes.

    • Jimius ( Jimius@lemmy.ml ) 
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      deleted by creator

  • SwampYankee ( SwampYankee@mander.xyz ) 
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    Fun fact, a taller, narrower can uses more aluminum!

    • frank ( frank@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      It’s definitely more surface area per volume, but a 200 vs 202 lid and a smaller hermetic seal cancels some of those losses. Sidewall is cheap aluminum wise, but you’re likely right in that it’s a little more aluminum. Definitely costs more to make since they do fill a little slower.

      Also fuck coke, what a bunch of assholes

      • BCsven ( BCsven@lemmy.ca ) 
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        The larger diameter of the original can plus the angled transition at either end probably means same surface area of aluminium. Small diameter differences make larger circumferential changes.

        • frank ( frank@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          They do, but overall the can end (lid) is a LOT more aluminum than you expect and the whole rest of it isn’t as much as you expect.

          So a little less lid is worth a fair bit more sidewall in terms of weight of aluminum

          • BCsven ( BCsven@lemmy.ca ) 
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            Aren’t these the same lid?

            • frank ( frank@sopuli.xyz ) 
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              I guess I’m a bit rusty, so I am not sure at 355ml and the skinny profile if you can get a 202 end can, or have to use a 200

              Hard to tell if it’s sleek or slim

              Edit: Actually no, that’s a 200 not a 202. Look at the profile around the tab.

              • BCsven ( BCsven@lemmy.ca ) 
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                They look so similar hard for me to tell

                • frank ( frank@sopuli.xyz ) 
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                  Look at the indent around the opening. On the shorter can it goes from wide to narrow at the back of the tab. It’s more of a straight line on the taller can

  • Viper_NZ ( Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz ) 
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    Not only do they cost more, the greater surface area means your cold drink warms up faster.

    Neat.

    • dQw4w9WgXcQ ( dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee ) 
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      Greater surface area also means more material for the same product, which leads to less effective transport, more waste and increased polution. Non-standarized can size means every can storage system and cup holder which have taken can size into consideration will be worse. I’m sure a lot of vending machines will have to be modified or scrapped for this can design.

      Everyone are worse off because of this, and it’s all for attempting to trick consumers and increase profits. Shit sucks.

      • Derpgon ( derpgon@programming.dev ) 
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        Is this a new thing in the US? We’ve had these in Europe for years - and I mean 10-15 at least.

    • Bloomcole ( Bloomcole@lemmy.ml ) Banned
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      Hey we get this revolutionary super can which is supposed to keep your beer cool.
      The ribs are supposed to reduce the contact area of warm fingers.
      It doesn’t work obviously since they aren’t big enough and skin on fingers are flexible enough to touch everything.
      You only pay 30 to 50% more for this nonsense.
      Everyone tries to avoid them but somehow the normal cans are more than often ‘sold out’ in stores.

      • some_dude ( some_dude@lemm.ee ) 
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        That’s what you get for drinking jupiler

        • Bloomcole ( Bloomcole@lemmy.ml ) Banned
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          Hey Stella snob, it’s not like you always have a choice.
          Also it’s standard thirst or get drunk gulping beer, not a fancy trippel or geuze.
          Doesn’t really matter that much.

          • some_dude ( some_dude@lemm.ee ) 
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            Ew gross, no Stella for me. Only the most alcoholic tripels for me.

            • Bloomcole ( Bloomcole@lemmy.ml ) Banned
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              You’re definitely not Belgian

              • some_dude ( some_dude@lemm.ee ) 
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                Thank god for that

                • Bloomcole ( Bloomcole@lemmy.ml ) Banned
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                  A tasteless peasant from the US banana republic I presume

    • OhVenus_Baby ( OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml ) 
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      😂

  • fadingembers ( fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    three comic panel of child in front of two glasses of water of the same size. the second panel depicts pouring one of the glasses into a skinnier, albeit taller glass. in the third panel with a smile on their face, the child points at the taller glass.

    • Kwakigra ( Kwakigra@beehaw.org ) 
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      The liberal media wants you to think that the two volumes of liquid are equal using their woke science, but if you use your common sense, you can clearly see that the narrow tube is filled higher and therefore contains more liquid. There is nothing wrong with the economy, real Americans just need to use narrower glasses. Checkmate, leftists. /s

    • JackbyDev ( JackbyDev@programming.dev ) 
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      Yes! I love this comic (well, I guess it wasn’t originally) and reference it all the time. I was randomly very curious which shot glasses we own are the biggest and was trying to use this as an example because we have some tall skinny ones and short fat ones. “You know! The thing where kids think the tall one is bigger??”

  • whoisearth ( whoisearth@lemmy.ca ) 
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    I mean it sucks and I drink coke (it’s my mix for booze) but it’s a welcome change (price increase). Soda pop should not be drunk as frequently as it is by people and anything to make it less common is a welcome change IMHO. If becoming more cost prohibitive to people makes them drink it less that’s not a bad thing

    Now the challenge becomes, because America is becoming a 3rd world shithole it’s possible that coke is the only safe drink because thanks to the EPA being gutted over decades water isn’t safe in many areas due to contamination. That’s not cool.

    • Bloomcole ( Bloomcole@lemmy.ml ) Banned
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      You know that has a lot of sugar, which is a poison and will kill you right?

      • whoisearth ( whoisearth@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Everything will kill you in excess. Live life and don’t be a Debbie Downer.

        • Bloomcole ( Bloomcole@lemmy.ml ) Banned
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          Hey friend, I’m not the one complaining about the water or people drinking too much.
          It’s friday and I’m going to have plenty of drinks, there will be no soda in sight.
          I wish you a good weekend.

          • petrol_sniff_king ( petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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            It’s friday and I’m going to have plenty of drinks, there will be no soda in sight.

            Um… congratulations?

            • Bloomcole ( Bloomcole@lemmy.ml ) Banned
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              Um…thank you
              I wish you a good weekend too
              with or without sodas

  • AmDread ( AmbientDread@midwest.social ) 
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    Prices go up up up Never come back down down down

    The invisible hand job economy

    • uis ( uis@lemm.ee ) 
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      Oil prices go up - petrol goes up.

      Oil prices go down - petrol goes up.

      Oil prices do nothing - petrol goes up.

      Petrol is purposeful and independent.

      Be like petrol!

  • Mycatiskai ( Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca ) 
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    People with vending machines aren’t going to be happy, those new ones won’t fit.

  • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ ( yournamehere@lemm.ee ) 
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    chant with me

    dont

    buy

    american

  • NigelFrobisher ( NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ) 
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    The fuck is a fluid ounce?

    • LogicalDrivel ( LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      Common mistake. Its actually Florida ounces.

    • UraniumForBreakfast ( UraniumForBreakfast@lemm.ee ) 
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      Ounces that are wet.

    • CoolMatt ( CoolMatt@lemmy.ca ) 
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      1/8th of a cup

    • 0ops ( 0ops@lemm.ee ) 
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      Damn liberals and their woke-genderized measurements smh

    • Catoblepas ( Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      Fluid ounce is volume, ounce is weight. Liters vs grams.

      • jcg ( jcg@halubilo.social ) 
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        Ah wonderful, so I’m sure one fluid ounce of water weighs precisely one ounce weight wise?

        • Catoblepas ( Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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          Almost identical, my understanding is it’s slightly off since it’s such an old measurement. But for everyday purposes it’s the same.

          • Manticore ( Manticore@beehaw.org ) 
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            So fluid ounces are just metric with extra steps :/

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  • butsbutts ( butsbutts@lemmy.ml ) 
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    mm sugar water

  • 4shtonButcher ( 4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    I mean we’re not buying this stuff any longer but I’m surprised coke seems to be more expensive in the US than it is in Denmark?!?

  • exploitedamerican ( exploitedamerican@lemm.ee ) 
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    Dickflation.

  • mystic-macaroni ( wuphysics87@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Quick ‘proof’ the taller the can, the more material used:

    Consider two cases ignoring the top and bottom only focussing on the surface area. In the first case, you flatten so much the can has no height. This forms a ring that when unwrapped makes a length of 2 pi R.

    Now stretch the can to be ‘infinitely’ long. By construction, this is longer than 2 pi r. Given both are made of aluminum, and have the same density, the larger can has more mass requiring more material.

    The total mass must be a continuous function ranging from the linear mass density times the circumference of the circle to the same mass density time times the ‘length’ of the infinite line. This must remain true for any small increase in length between the two.

    I’ll leave this as an exercise to the reader. What if the circle has an infinite radius?

  • driving_crooner ( driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br ) 
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    Damn, 123% rise.

  • Match!! ( match@pawb.social ) 
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    surely this uses more aluminum

    • mexicancartel ( mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      It may use less aluminum, as the top and bottom surfaces are much thicker

    • Realitätsverlust ( Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip ) 
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      I’m shit at math, but probably not? If both contain the same amount of liquid, are filled to the same point and both are round (which they are lol), I don’t see how those would require more material.

      And even if, if they double the price per can, it’s absolutely worth it.

      • Match!! ( match@pawb.social ) 
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        To illustrate, imagine if we kept getting taller and taller - like trying to fit the same volume of soda in a pencil-thin can that’s about a meter long.

        You use more and more aluminum the further away it gets from the minimum surface-area-to-volume container, which would be a sphere

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