• streetfestival ( streetfestival@lemmy.ca ) 
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    What a stupid post. Yeah it’s progressives’ fault mango Mussolini is POTUS /s. This is a talking point manufactured by MAGA handlers that some broadly Dem-supporting people choose to broadcast, now outside the US. This is a type of brainrot that undermines critical thinking, divides the left, and helps elect the right. Canada deserves better

    • Sunshine (she/her) ( Sunshine@lemmy.ca ) OP
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      Progressives are separate from tankies. You can have leftist ideals without supporting authoritarians.

      You must understand that under first-past-the-post the party that receives the most criticism tends to lose. It’s much easier to pressure democrats into doing the right thing then with republicans.

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        No one calls themselves a tankie. It is a pejorative term for a progressive. It is used to silence legitimate criticism and helps right-shift politics

        (Edit: I think your frustration is really more with the mainstream media and what news they choose to cover and amplify)

      • Count042 ( Count042@lemmy.ml ) 
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        There was a lot of pressure for the most banal, milquetoast, form of representation ever in the form of having a Palestinian speaker at the Democratic national convention with a vetted speech that involved nothing that would have criticized Israel at all.

        Even that was too far.

        Either the progressives are powerful enough that you have to take them seriously and give them concessions, or they aren’t and you get to ignore them.

        What you don’t get to do is give them nothing and blame them when you lose. Or, I guess you do if you’d prefer to lose the general over letting a progressive win the primary.

        Huh, funny that, who knew there is a lot of levers and controls that a primary winner, even one that lost the general, gets.

      • davel [he/him] ( davel@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Progressives are not leftists, they are centrist liberals. No matter how many times Sanders calls himself a socialist, he is never going to call for abolishing private ownership of the means of production.

    • helps elect the right

      Trump, the farthest right viable candidate, was elected because he got the most votes.

      Regardless of your feelings about her, Kamala was the most viable opposition to Trump.

      Some people were most active being anti-Kamala.

      In your opinion, did the anti-Kamala influencers hurt Trump’s election, or did they help Trump’s election?

      • streetfestival ( streetfestival@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Anti- Biden/Kamala influencers helped elect Trump. The biggest of those influencers were the mainstream media. The double standard of reporting (Biden/Harris vs Trump) is very well documented. (And the ring-kissing is approaching authoritarian levels now.) Ideas that actual grassroots would-be Democrat voters sabotaged the the Democrats’ success in the election is much less certain, but perhaps a more attractive version of reality than the big-money-funded pro right-wing system we’re up against. Less in-fighting amongst the left please

      • Sunshine (she/her) ( Sunshine@lemmy.ca ) OP
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        She was objectively much better than Trump. Hopefully in the future Americans have the single transferable vote for presidential elections so they can vote for other candidates in other parties.