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 schnurrito   ( @schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de )  to Privacy@lemmy.ml · 8 months ago

UK creating ‘murder prediction’ tool to identify people most likely to kill

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UK creating ‘murder prediction’ tool to identify people most likely to kill

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 schnurrito   ( @schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de )  to Privacy@lemmy.ml · 8 months ago
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Exclusive: Algorithms allegedly being used to study data of thousands of people, in project critics say is ‘chilling and dystopian’
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  •  Karyoplasma   ( @Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    Guilty until proven innocent.

    •  nevm   ( @nevm@lemmy.ml ) 
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      It’s how the police view you anyway.

    •  SoulWager   ( @SoulWager@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Pretty easy to prove you didn’t commit a crime that hasn’t happened, no?

      •  FreudianCafe   ( @FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Yes just tell the pig that you did not do it and he will release you

      •  LiamBox   ( @LiamTheBox@lemmy.ml ) 
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        No

        https://youtu.be/3Zfz5rjjifM

  •  Viri4thus   ( @Viri4thus@feddit.org ) 
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    Oh, I’ve seen this one. where’s scientology Tom in this episode?

    •  єχтяανɒgαηт єηzумэ   ( @ExtravagantEnzyme@lemm.ee ) 
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      Or the bald predictor gals laying in water?

  •  Jason2357   ( @Jason2357@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Data scientist here; there simply are not enough murders to model this, so they will need to use proxies for “likely” murderers (like any sort of violent crime). That means the model will very strongly target people who are over-policed (minorities) and those more likely to actually get caught and charged for things, and thus be in the training data set (poor people). It will also fail spectacularly for this purpose because even a highly accurate model will produce almost 100% false positives -again, because actual murders are so vanishingly rare. The math just doesn’t work.

  •  tavishwolf   ( @tavishwolf@lemm.ee ) 
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    I give it two seconds to turn into racism machine

    •  Junkernaught   ( @Junkernaught@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      And those two seconds are just the boot sequence.

  •  FriendOfDeSoto   ( @FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website ) 
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    Will this drive the first wrongfully accused person to suicide or will it just somehow, magically, target all brown and black people? Stay tuned to see how much taxpayer money gets sunk into this tool.

  •  wise_pancake   ( @wise_pancake@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Prediction: this gets used to surveil dissidents and minorities disproportionately.

  •  geneva_convenience   ( @geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Healthcare CEOs at the top of the list.

  •  skrlet13   ( @skrlet13@feddit.cl ) 
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    Psycho Pass called, you missed its point

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      “UK developing new hybrid non lethal/lethal weapon that will use murder risk prediction score to select operating mode. This amazing invention will cut down on police related deaths, learn more tonight on BBC.”

      I swear the UK is as dystopian as the US and even worse in a lot of ways.

      •  PowerCrazy   ( @PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) 
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        I swear the UK is as dystopian as the US and even worse in a lot of ways.

        It literally always has been and that fact is why the US even exists.

        •  Zetta   ( @Zetta@mander.xyz ) 
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          Good point, didn’t think about it like that haha

      •  Mike   ( @Pirata@lemm.ee ) 
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        I swear the UK is as dystopian as the US and even worse in a lot of ways.

        Why do you think they wanted Brexit? Now they can apply all their demented ideas to their country freely.

        I, for one, haven’t set foot there since Brexit officially concluded. Shame that I have friends there but, I hear it’s becoming worse by the day anyways.

      •  AnotherHelldiver   ( @AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu ) 
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        Ah yes, the good old way of throwing electromagnetic waves at people after putting their cymatic scans inside a shared pool of neutrally and selected shared consciousness of dissected sociopaths brains.

        I didn’t have it on my Bingo card.

  •  JohnnyCanuck   ( @JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca ) 
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    They should make three, and they all have to agree, but if only one disagrees then maybe they can ignore it, call it the “minority account” or something like that.

    •  bigkahuna1986   ( @bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml ) 
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      The “less report”. Blamo.

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      Sounds like a great idea for a movie. I have the feeling it would become an instant cult classic.

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      You’re not going to believe this, but Tom Cruise… has identified you as an agent of Xenu.

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    apparently Uk govt has never played watch dogs legion, nor seen Equilibrium (C Bale movie), nor Minority Report, nor Richard III, nor read Brave New World, nor the billion other movies, novels, games, poems, songs, Banksy art, social videos, cave paintings, etc that specifically warned UK not to (re)become the villain (over and over again)

    it’s like the 2nd most popular culture topic… after “love” or something

    but noooo, just had to be edgelordsandladies.gov.uk

    …

    •  AnotherHelldiver   ( @AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu ) 
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      Psycho Pass.

      Another one to the list. Great anime. It’s like if Blade Runner and Minority Report had a loving relationship and a beautiful child was the byproduct of this union.

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    We are living the plot from PsychoPass

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      I shit you not, my mom literally just was talking about that anime and joking about it with me last night. I think it’s because we were talking about police anime.

      Like if I knew Lemmy didn’t have an algorithm, I’d think this shit was targeted.

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    Will the British cabinet be automatically included on the list?

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    There’s no possible way this could go badly.

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  •  emberpunk   ( @emberpunk@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Welcome to our over-securitized late stage capitalist hellscape. All so companies can push out these bogus ‘tools’ and eat more of the state budget and profit like the crony capitalists they are. Not the first time. First as a tragedy, second as a farce.

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