• The nazi loved the “nothing to hide”. What better than all your information, like religion, nicely written down in official records if you want to suddenly round up one specific group of people. Or DEI wanting to deport a certain group, and DOGE doing their best to suck up all information on everybody. You may have nothing to fear right now, but you never know who’s going to be in office soon.

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      You may have nothing to fear right now, but you never know who’s going to be in office soon.

      The way I always explain it to people - take any additional government power or access to information you either don’t care about or actively support. Now imagine whoever you oppose/hate the most taking office and trying to use that against your interests. Are you still OK with them having that power? Same principle applies regardless of what power or who’s pushing for it.

      It’s like due process - you don’t want any category of alleged violation not to be subject to due process, and if you don’t understand why then it’s time to wrongfully accuse you of doing that so you understand the problem.

    • I still think DOGE is just feeding all that information to Palantir, and everything else is a pretext to that goal. They want an AI embedded directly into the government, making a large dependency on it, and bypassing checks and balances quickly has allowed that to happen.

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    “The early Internet’s dissociative opportunities actually encouraged me and those of my generation to change our most deeply held opinions, instead of just digging in and defending them when challenged. This ability to reinvent ourselves meant that we never had to close our minds by picking sides, or close ranks out of fear of doing irreparable harm to our reputations. Mistakes that were swiftly punished but swiftly rectified allowed both the community and the “offender” to move on. To me, and to many, this felt like freedom.” ~ Permanent Record, Snowden.

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    He misattributes that quote

    https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1558

    You will find the quote in this book that predates Nazi Germany

    Not merely was my own mail opened, but the mail of all my relatives and friends—people residing in places as far apart as California and Florida. I recall the bland smile of a government official to whom I complained about this matter: “If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.”

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      I’m gonna guess a whole lot of flustered backpedaling amounting to not a lot of anything, but I’m willing to be surprised if someone wants to dig up the video.

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        I don’t think this image shows her being in a position to backpedal from. I see her providing him with a platform to counter some points that were made elsewhere; she has not necessarily taken a position one way or the other.

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          I meant backpedaling in the journalistic way of ‘Oh you seem to actually know more about what you’re talking about than I do and have a lot to say on the subject, I should, uh, redirect to a different topic where I can catch you out for that sick sound bite’ or whatever. Maybe that’s not what was going on in that interview, Iono, I haven’t seen it.

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    The fediverse condemns free speech. The fediverse bans unapproved opinions and wrong think, proving that the fediverse is an enemy to the principals of Edward Snowden. But it’s fun to be on here one in awhile knowing fhe right thing to say that forces people to come undone and expose their true personality. When you through a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that helps is the one you hit, so it makes for a fun time to say the right thing for setting off everybody and watxh in the insults come in, it means that I hit my mark

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      The fediverse is a bunch of websites that talk to each other with the same protocol. If you’ve been banned from one, you can still talk on all the others. If you are banned on your home instance I am pretty sure you can still post on all the others.

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        The fediverse imposes censorship through de-federation, as opposed to being decentralized that only requires protocol configuration with any software designed to communicate through said protocols. Fediverse requires approval before accepting messages from other servers

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            What is cinsidered hate speech and what is not considered hate speech for pointing out fallacies in people’s statements, questioning someone’s pathology, or showing someone’s deceptive framing?

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              The idea is that people can block what they don’t want to see. Some users/communities/instances are more open, and others are more closed off. There’s nothing stopping you from finding a place that aligns with what you want

              If someone doesn’t want to interact with you, you’re not going to accomplish anything by forcing them to interact with you.

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                I’m all for individual users block who they want. In fact I emcourage it so users onlyvsee what they want. But when server admins defederate and divide the service into sections, users have no say anymore and will have to user mutiple accounts simultaneously across different servers to check posts. The line about telling people to start their own server is a cop out to avoid tue fractoring and censorship, but then to try to promote fediverse as an alternative to th bg names, that’s all a lie and a conjob when severs run by infants block users talking to adults who do not react emotionally to reading words on a screen. In stead, the fediverse seems to be only for people who have identical opinions on every subject and every contrary view gets dogpiled in an attempt to beat into submittiom.

                I can say something about people who live a certain lifestyle and have my account deleted. Others can say the exact opposite as me and they get praise and posting gets promoted. It makes the fediverse look like a cult of freakshows who are terrrified to go out to public places and debate people in the street, but come on here to escape humans who don’t agree where everybody conforms to a specific view and everything else is deleted or banned. Given the way fediverse people complain about Twitter, a pattern emerges that their complaints is the fact the Twitter allows opinions that they can’t tolerate so they stay in fediverse where they are protected from reading words. Those people will never achieve much for jobs or careers where co-workers can express offensive or insulting views and the company can’t do anything because they can’t fire someone for an opinion, so they will have to wok with people who don’t support their views or reject their beliefs. How will people on here ever handle having children when their own kids can grow up to reject their views but have to maintain a close relationship despite their child’s disapproval of what they believe?

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          People just don’t want to be around a bigot. Simple as. Social harms that might come to you for espousing views that aren’t acceptable to the surrounding community isn’t censorship, it’s just social rejection on legitimate grounds. Fix your heart or GTFO.

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            If that were true, speaking with strangers in public places would not contradict fediverse postings. It seems that being outside talking with strangers face to face closers aligns, but not identical, to what’s on Twitter than every single fediverse service. If you can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t accept what you believe but has other interests away from the internet, not being online, that is lack of intellectual curiosity. Someone, I’m not suggesting you, who can’t spend an afternoon with people without checking phone for new messages lives in misery 10 out of 10 times.