• zod000 ( zod000@lemmy.ml ) 
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    We watched it live in elementary school, most of the kids didn’t get what had happened right away. Our teacher was just standing there stunned until an announcement came on the intercom asking all the teachers to turn it off. They didn’t say anything to us, just tried to pretend like we didn’t just watch people blow up live.

    • Bldck ( Bldck@beehaw.org ) 
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      I mean… not really.

      🛰️ Space Race Fatalities Comparison: Soviet Union vs United States

      Aspect 🇺🇸 United States 🇷🇺 Soviet Union
      Total astronaut/cosmonaut deaths 9–10 (incl. test/training accidents) 8 (official)
      On-mission fatalities 3 (Apollo 1, ground test) 4 (Soyuz 1, Soyuz 11)
      Training/test deaths (astronauts) 6+ (e.g. Theodore Freeman, C.C. Williams) 4+ (e.g. Valentin Bondarenko, others possibly unacknowledged)
      Deaths among ground personnel <10 100+ (notably the Nedelin disaster)
      Transparency High (accidents publicized and investigated) Low (many incidents hidden until after 1989)
      Major catalyst event Apollo 1 fire Soyuz 1, Nedelin disaster

      Key Takeaways
      • 🇺🇸 U.S. suffered more astronaut fatalities, including test pilots and training accidents.
      • 🇷🇺 Soviets had higher total human losses, especially among engineers and soldiers during explosive launch and fuel testing incidents.
      • 🔥 The Apollo 1 fire led to sweeping design and safety reforms in NASA.
      • 🚨 The Soyuz 1 and Soyuz 11 tragedies were fatal in-flight accidents; Soyuz 11 remains the only in-space human fatality.
      • 🕵️ The Nedelin disaster, one of the worst rocket catastrophes in history, killed over 100 but was kept secret for decades.
      • 🧾 Transparency and institutional accountability were key differences: NASA publicly investigated accidents; the USSR often concealed failures.
      • Cowbee [he/they] ( Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 
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        You can certainly blur the space race with missile development as they were intimately tied on both sides, and if you want to include it then the deaths from the US ICBM disasters need to be included as well, but I do think it’s a bit absurd to uncritically report that 100+ people died in Nedelin when official numbers revealed it to be 54. Plus, wherever you sourced this from is clearly generally biased against the soviets beyond the scope of this report.

        • Gloomy ( Gloomy@mander.xyz ) 
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          It’s true that all deaths on both sides were caused by people with JEWISH names. Coincidence? Not likley. Hitler killed less people. Elon is god. Sieg. Sieg!1!!!1

          Grok, probably

  • Schwim Dandy ( Schwim@lemmy.zip ) 
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    The crew didn’t blow up(src).

    The flight, and the astronauts’ lives, did not end at that point, 73 seconds after launch. After Challenger was torn apart, the pieces continued upward from their own momentum, reaching a peak altitude of 65,000 feet before arching back down into the water. The cabin hit the surface 2 minutes and 45 seconds after breakup, and all investigations indicate the crew was still alive until then.

    We were led out of our classrooms to watch it since we lived in FL. When the launch went pear-shaped, nobody really understood what had happened, we just thought it was part of the fuel tanks dropping away. We went back in, sat down and continued our day. I don’t think the teachers ever told us something went wrong and I found out about it that night at home.

  • Tiger666 ( Tiger666@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Not only did they broadcast the explosion they also caused it. Haha(not funny)

    Richard Feynman was the one who let slip innocently what the cause was during an international press conference and made a lot of people in Washington very very mad.

    Basically, the Whitehouse pushed NASA to launch despite the weather being too cold and that caused an expansion joint of an SRB to fail.

    Feynman showed the world what happens to the expansion joint material by putting it in some ice water for five minutes during the press conference and showed it crumbled after he took it out of the glass.

    That man was an international treasure and I miss him very much.

  • vfreire85 ( vfreire85@lemmy.ml ) 
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    i wasn’t born back then, but i remember watching a punky brewster episode rerun when i was a kid that was about it. probably the first time i heard about the challenger disaster.

  • WatDabney ( WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    I watched it in person, sort of.

    I was living on the Florida Gulf Coast at the time. From the Gulf Coast, a shuttle launch was just a bright bead drawing a thin line up from the horizon, so it wasn’t any sort of spectacle, but it was something interesting to watch if you happened to be outside, which I was.

    And it was obvious even from there what had likely happened, since the bright bead suddenly flashed, then went out, and the line went off sideways.