To be honest, im more than Tired of this whole “Mimimi, Google is restricting installing Android apps, so its worse than iOS now Mimimi”

So heres 4 Options, how to Opt out of Gservices, and therefore not have this whole Debacle of Verified Apps, in varying degrees of Difficuilty from “3 Year old iPad kid can do this” (Aka install Via Browser) to “You have to Copy 3 Text snippets and Paste them”, to even “Order Online”.

And before everyone starts Crying, there are more than Enough Apps and Alternatives to the Propriatery stuff youve been using until now. No, you dont need a Burgerking App, no, you dont need an App for Kaufland. They are Selling your Data, and thats the only reason they Exist. If you consent with having your Data sold, you have no reason to opt out of Gapps anyway.

  1. Install Via Web Browser.
  1. Install Manually (aka. Paste 3 or so Lines into cmd)
  1. Adb and Magisk MicroG Module (Please use uBlocks Badware Filter list, as there are many fake Sites)
  1. Buy a Degoogled Phone
  • mat ( mat@linux.community ) English
    33·
    1 year ago

    While degoogling is accessible right now, what worries me is that all of these projects are 100% dependent on Google’s whims because they use Android as the upstream. Same reason why I don’t use Chromium browsers: yes, they can patch over things, but they can’t fight the direction of the upstream project and they are powerless if the upstream stops publishing commits / source, like Google seems to be moving toward. Additionally, what “the big distros” aka stock ROMs do to prevent FOSS apps being installed means a much much smaller potential userbase for them. I develop an Android app, and (while I don’t have analytics) I don’t find it unlikely that at least half my users are on stock roms that would lose access to my app with this policy. It’s much less motivating to develop something when I know less people will benefit, and especially knowing I’m supporting only custom roms that are 100% beholden to Google. Degoogling is a good first step. I’ve been on Lineage for many years now. But I believe that the step that will truly make us independent is moving to Linux phones.

  • comrade_twisty ( comrade_twisty@feddit.org ) 
    31·
    1 year ago

    We need rules regulating that banks do not rely on closed services to function - period.

    Suggesting to use a second used phone for banking is ridiculous, for most of us banking and mobile payments are literally the most important functions of a phone after getting messages and email.

    • Luffy ( Luffy879@lemmy.ml ) OP
      6·
      1 year ago

      Yes, we need regulation.

      But for Mobile Payment, you already have a Card so you can pay in store and every bank has a website.

      I am talking as someone who has lost access to the Mobile bank for 2 weeks, and still you can dfo just about everything with the Self Service terminals

      • comrade_twisty ( comrade_twisty@feddit.org ) 
        15·
        1 year ago

        To access my banks website I need to authorize the login with the mobile app, there is no alternative to using either iOS or stock Android to get in - NONE.

        Doing transactions at the bank, even at the terminal is not free and also ridiculously inconvenient…

        As far as mobile payments go, i live in a country with its own currency so my only option to get favorable exchange rates in the EU is using a virtual card from a Neobank which only works with Apple or Google Pay.

      • Lychee ( Lychee@lemmy.ml ) 
        5·
        1 year ago

        If Self Service Terminals still exist… might be the case for Germany, but here’s a complete demolition of all those Terminals. They have been replaced with a more general terminal which doesn’t have the same functions… basically only withdraw and deposit, so you are required to do online banking or make an appointment with the bank to discuss a transaction etc… also a lot less terminals these days.

    • Luffy ( Luffy879@lemmy.ml ) OP
      1·
      1 year ago

      I do their same too, but unfortunately, my Bank requires a costum 2fa app for any Kind of online payments and online banking, but fortunately dosent use Play protect, so I can just make a profile with the apps + sandboxed Gservices

      I mean, I could use Paypal since it has the Option for SEPA and handle all my online stuff, but I’d rather just use my card instead of paypal

      • MachineFab812 ( MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
        4·
        1 year ago

        Oh no, overseas might know as much about me as my fascist government does!! Seriously, when I ditch the US, I might start worrying about China, but until then, I hope my FBI/NSA handler and CCP spy meet up for drinks on the regular to mock my shitposts.