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RmDebArc_5 ( RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip )  to Memes@sopuli.xyzEnglish · 1 year ago
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  • Jo Miran ( JoMiran@lemmy.ml ) 
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    My wife continued to use Windows for her work because many of her clients are locked into the MS ecosystem. A few weeks ago a Windows update decided to corrupt her SSD and now she has finally joined me in Linux land. Good job Microsoft!

    • s12 ( s12@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      Such a wholesome story!
      Thanks for sharing.

    • Resonosity ( Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      That’s why I finally made the switch!

    • hayvan ( hayvan@feddit.nl ) 
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      I obviously don’t know her exact needs but so much can be achieved by web versions of Office and Outlook that I didn’t have issues working with MS-using clients.

      • Jo Miran ( JoMiran@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Neither web versions nor LibreOffice can satisfy the needs of a true Excel power user. Also, Teams, OneDrive, SharePoint and multi-account Outlook access are all problematic unless you are using the native clients. Now she runs Windows VMs for that stuff.

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          You had me until multi-account Outlook access. Why not just use different browser profiles?

          That said, the Outlook application is necessary for lots of things, like saving email files (record keeping) and mail merges, but the number of accounts has never been a problem for me. I have 9 active email accounts spread across three/five different platforms (depending if you separate corporate vs. free), and I use web apps (by choice) for all of them, aside from popping Outlook open for the aforementioned mail merges and digital record keeping for email files.

          But absolutely true for Excel. It frustrates me so much when I’m stuck on a computer with even slightly outdated versions of the Excel application. SORT, FILTER, TEXTSPLIT, and so many other functions are so much simpler than the many workarounds I used to kludge together.

          But fuck Teams. The application is just as garbage as the web app. Those two fail/crash ten times more than all the other apps on my computer *combined". I’ve crashed three times in a single meeting. It must be vibe coded, bolted together, janky, spaghetti code.

          • Jo Miran ( JoMiran@lemmy.ml ) 
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            You had me until multi-account Outlook access. Why not just use different browser profiles?

            She has almost a dozen active clients at the moment. Browser tabs for Outlook doesn’t help her organize them.

  • jjpamsterdam ( jjpamsterdam@feddit.org ) 
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    One thing junior devs at my company are taught early and often is that it’s OK to look at a potential solution that an AI could come up with, just like it’s OK to use stack overflow, but to never ever trust that solution without fully understanding it and usually simplifying it quite a bit.

  • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 
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    It sucks that Windows has gotten so bad

    • ArmchairAce1944 ( ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ) 
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      Fuck windows. I got fed up of their constant monitoring. I am glad to be rid of it. They still have a lot of my data, sadly, but nothing spicy, and given their incompetence they will probably lose it all by the time any buyer wants it.

    • HobbitFoot  ( HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ) 
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      The problem is that the Windows monopoly isn’t worth having any more and Microsoft is flailing in trying to make it worth it.

      Microsoft can’t force an app store like Apple and Google can for iOS and Android. No one is going to buy an OS subscription like they do for Office 365. And, I’m sure that Microsoft earns almost nothing on new installs because of how cheap hardware has gotten.

      • fu ( fu@libranet.de ) 
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        • HobbitFoot  ( HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ) 
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          Eh. I feel like desktops are going to go the way of Steam Decks and Chromebooks for consumers. While Microsoft can’t force an app store, other companies/OS’s can.

          For corporate users, I can see a corporate Windows/Office tech stack form, with corporations paying for support per user like current companies pay for Windows & Office 365.

    • andyburke ( andyburke@fedia.io ) 
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      … always was.

      • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 
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        Not really

        It got a lot of people excited about computers back when the customer was the user

        • fu ( fu@libranet.de ) 
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          • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 
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            Then you haven’t been around long enough. This was back when Microsoft was making Windows commercials

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  • crt0o ( crt0o@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    My windows install started bluescreening a couple days ago and won’t boot, might be this exact issue lmao, anyways, I got linux and neither the energy nor time to deal with microsoft’s bullshit, I’m tempted to wipe that garbage off my disk for good

    • pinball_wizard ( pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Oof. I only upgraded my last Windows 10 install to Linux Mint a week ago. It feels like I may have dodged a bullet, this time.

      As you said, I just don’t have the time or energy for this particular bit of computing excitement.

  • BurgerBaron ( BurgerBaron@piefed.social ) 
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    AI bad true, but there’s no evidence this update did anything bad and ssd/hdd manufacturers and Microsoft have all come out after testing and said as much.

    Negative placebo and gossip. Drives fail all the time, people (and media/youtubers for clickbait) see the headlines and blame the update.

    https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/microsoft-claims-windows-11-is-innocent-of-killing-ssds-but-the-mystery-continues

    https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/phison-squashes-reports-of-windows-11-breaking-ssds-says-it-was-unable-to-reproduce-issues-despite-4-500-hours-of-testing-recommends-users-deploy-heatsinks-just-in-case

    People witch hunting Phison too.

    • TheRealKuni ( TheRealKuni@piefed.social ) 
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      Isn’t it funny how news bias bubbles work? The articles about the update causing SSD failures were everywhere on Lemmy. But after thousands of hours of testing from Microsoft, Phison, and various journalism outlets, the issue isn’t replicable. But I haven’t seen that reported on here at all because it doesn’t make Microsoft look bad.

      Microsoft is plenty bad, we don’t need to massage data to make them seem even worse.

      (To be fair I wasn’t on Lemmy much this weekend, it’s possible I just missed this.)

      • lazynooblet ( lazynooblet@lazysoci.al ) 
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        Lemmy loves Linux and rightly so, but it hates Windows even more.

        Example, this is a no-subject memes community, and you’ll find plenty of anti-Windows stuff here. And the actual linuxmemes community sometimes feels like it could be renamed to hatewindowsmemes.

        • TheRealKuni ( TheRealKuni@piefed.social ) 
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          Not surprising, the same way /r/atheism was, for a while at least, more like /r/antichristianity. Part of the identity is opposition to “the enemy.”

          Personally I think that part of the identity is unhelpful, and focus is better put on the identity being about what makes it the better choice. Like Dems losing in 2016 and 2024 because a good chunk of their messaging was “look how bad Trump is,” which only served to broadcast Trump even more.

          (That’s not to say that complaints aren’t valid, it’s just a poor way to structure an identity.)

      • thann ( thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        JayzTwoCents:

        https://youtu.be/TbFIUu_7LIc

        • kieron115 ( kieron115@startrek.website ) 
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          I love jay as a creator but he gets things wrong on occasion. Example: he recently made a video suggesting that everyone running nvidia on windows use software to force rebar on globally, which is KNOWN to break games or cause performance issues (which is why it isn’t enabled globally in the first place.) At the end of the day he is still a creator driven by the algorithm and metrics for his livelihood so you gotta take what he says with a grain of salt.

    • s12 ( s12@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      I heard too many stories about people’s hard drives failing after the update for the news to be false. As far as I know, the issue isn’t easily reproducible though.

      • BurgerBaron ( BurgerBaron@piefed.social ) 
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        Stories without data are what.

    • sigmaklimgrindset ( sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      I didn’t think a lot of drives were actually permanently borked, were they?

      I’ll pitch in my anecdote: I updated to Windows 11 3878, everything was fine. Downloaded Helldivers onto my gaming drive overnight, and woke up in the morning seeing that the SSD was not being detected (WD Black NVME, no heatsink). Pulled it out, put it in another PC, saw that it was being detected, so I rolled back the Windows update because that’s the only other thing that had changed. Drive works fine again.

      SOMETHING definitely happened, but I think it’s waaaaaaay over-reported tbh.

  • SaharaMaleikuhm ( SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ) 
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    I’m so glad I get to enjoy Linux every single day.

  • ArmchairAce1944 ( ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ) 
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    I went into linux mint. I am certain, CERTAIN, that a windows 10 update probably caused a fundamental HD failure on my old computer. I have hard drives much older and more used than the one I had, yet that HD, which was the main HD I had started to fail. It gave enough life for me to back it up into a massive 14TB backup drive (I keep that one unplugged when not in use) so I didn’t lose any data.

    But HD failures are rare for me. I am fucking glad I was able to save the data. I need to put that drive to some old fashion electronic recycling.

    • lazynooblet ( lazynooblet@lazysoci.al ) 
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      How were you certain? Drives fail all the time.

  • Megaman_EXE ( Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org ) 
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    I tried to rollback this update and either somehow did something incredibly wrong, or windows decided to bug out. It slowed the PC horribly, and I had to reinstall windows 11. Such a pain

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    Oh the irony of sitting back on Win 10 being what saves people from the issue.

    • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 
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      It is about to go EOL

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    FUCK that better not be what happened to my computer.

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      If you have that update, it 100% will 🙃

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