this is along with name, race and other demographic information
They don’t have a gender field, and it really feels like they are just reducing sex and gender down to “you are what you were assigned at birth”, and then hiding behind amorphous medical “reasons” as justification …
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I agree that the capacity to be pregnant is medically relevant, but asking someone what they were assigned at birth (based on a quick genital inspection) is not the same as asking them to disclose if they are capable of being pregnant.
You’re not wrong. That’s the hamfisted part. Among the older generations, asking “if you fuck, can a creampie result in a baby?” is more offensive than “when you were born, what parts did you have?” because the latter keeps the jizz further away.
Source: I am old.
lol, that’s a whole lotta fuck, creampie, and jizz in a sentence for a supposedly fellow sensitive, old person 😆
I guess you’re right - socially it’s totally normal to infer pregnancy capacity from genitals (nevermind how insensitive this may be to women who struggle with fertility issues, or who choose to sterilize themselves), but when I go into an ER or hospital they don’t ask me my assigned sex at birth, they just start running pregnancy tests on me, or they ask for my last period or if I could be pregnant.
The point being: they only ask assigned sex at birth when they can’t look at you and determine that with their eyeballs, and just like how they can get it wrong when they quickly glance at your genitals as a baby and assign your sex, they also get it wrong when they see me and assume I was assigned female at birth - not because I’m not female or a woman, but because I have a medical history that is atypical for other women, and I’m an outlier when it comes to fertility.
Not that thinking in terms of most common cases is such a crime or anything, but when dealing with large enough populations it does mean you are going to run into exceptions like me, and so it’s certainly better if a system like that has enough flexibility to account for those exceptions.
I said I was old; I didn’t say I was sensitive. I just have my finger on the pulse of the aged.
And don’t get me wrong, there’s definitely a whole lot of active and open malice towards trans people. It’s a good idea to consider these kind things with suspicion first, because your safety may be in question. Even with this comparatively benign incident, there’s a safety aspect: if a trans person answers truthfully, well, that’s on record somewhere now, isn’t it? Who has or will gain access to that information, and what might they do with it?
Be careful. Make the decisions that keep you the safest. Don’t burn up all your mental effort on plain outrage. You will need it for action.
The medical forms here just ask if you are or could potentially be pregnant, because that’s the actual relevant question.
Then that should be the questions asked, not some arbitrary “sex” question with only some of the possible answers as options.
It should be apparent, especially now, that those things never were never enough to determine these things anyway. There are tons of types of intersex people which are not an insignificant percentage of the population.
So, there are some things that loosely follow AGAB for the majority of people, but the assumptions made based on that, end up causing more trouble for those whose bodies don’t conform. And that’s not a small portion of the population. Basically between intersex people and trans people who have had HRT and/or surgery are at very, very conservative estimates, around 3%, but since there’s no finding and it’s now unsafe to track even in the US and UK and other western countries, it’s likely much higher in reality. These people are poorly served by the current system of AGAB only.
For me, many of my lab tests show abnormal because it should ask what is my body’s primary sex hormone or ask to select for the specific test, what range is normal for my body if they want to get it really right. And honestly, body weight is more impactful on a lot of things anyway, why aren’t we asking that of every person (rhetorical question, but essentially asking if you were born with or the doctors modified your body at birth to have something that looked closer to a penis than a vulva, should be just as uncouth)? Also, insurance won’t pay for gynecology/urology kind of stuff or mammograms or prostate cancer screenings even if you have the right body parts to need it, if your AGAB is wrong without a long and drawn out process each and every time to prove you have the right part. Heck it’s not even good for marketing if you have the wrong one listed because it has to be your AGAB rather than the gender you present as and thus the high profit products you’re most likely to use.
So it really has a low usefulness compared to asking more relevant questions whether for medical or commercial reasons.
LIE. LIE TO THE CORPOS.
Hack the form!
Yikes. I would take my business elsewhere for sure. I don’t use Walgreens currently, personally. My current pharmacy seems pretty alright, they changed my GF’s name on her pill bottles when we transferred the prescription, no problem.
Walgreen’s is the goody-two-shoes couch fucking Vance of the pharmacy world in my experience, so this totally tracks.
Last year when I went in to get my covid vaccine, they asked a ton of questions and then turned me away because “technically I said yes” when they asked if I’d been in contact with anybody in the past 14 days who tested positive for covid. I even explained that it was outdoors and from a distance after my neighbor briefly stopped their car to say hello and then tested positive a few days later.
I literally drove down the street to Walmart right after and got the vaccine. They only asked me about my insurance info and which arm I wanted the shot in.
What was the purpose of all those questions and why was it necessary to begin with?
lie :3
I thought it was a restaurant and was enraged until I did a quick ecosia search and:
American pharmacy
now it makes sense lol.
haha, I love this - sorry for the US-centrism 🫠
Had something similar happen when I made a new bank account. They asked me for my name (obviously) and my name at birth…
It’s probably just a standard workflow for them to prevent easier money laundering but they didn’t need any proof either…? It just felt very very strange
Nah wouldn’t they ask previous legal names if that was the case?
what are the options on the drop down menu? I refuse to supply any demographic information under all circumstances.
I refuse when there is an option to, but in this case you had to make a choice between male and female, it was a required field to schedule a vaccine.
It sounds like a medical records thing and you should use whatever gender is listed on your medical records, which should probably match your social security records.
Some people only change state records so they have to respond differently depending on who’s asking. I think in this case its related to federal records.
I have started picking the “not saying” option where I can now too, for everything. If loads of people do, it doesn’t stand out as different when someone does.
Plus at work they recently started asking about stuff like autism, my real answer is not diagnosed but no one would be surprised. So confirming yes or no feels kinda dishonest too.
i just put f because that’s what i am; only my pcp knows my saab and that’s only because i know and trust her.
I’m debating whether to even tell my PCP - I will have to tell someone to get access to hormones, but I would really prefer to not have to disclose my trans status for so many reasons … (one of those being the poor medical assumptions made when they assume I’m “male”).
it really all depends on your location too and whether or not you feel safe. for me, my pcp was who i initially talked about being trans with and she gave me some pointers on places to go (i also get my hormones and see my endo through fenway health which is a dedicated lgbtq clinic) so definitely only do it if you feel safe (erin’s hrt map helped out a lot to find places near me)
I’m definitely in a safer place now, ironically I was completely out to my doctors when I lived in a very unsafe state, but that was because I had initially transitioned then and needed access to care. I’m not really out to anyone in this new city, except to the other trans people at a trans support group.
I am not worried about safety as much as all the problems that come with disclosing trans status, such as suddenly not being seen as your gender (even when you were passing before), and all the ignorance that comes with being trans.
I always just say my AGAB is female. My pharmacy don’t need to know and it’s not illegal.
I’m guessing they’ll assume your genitalia match your ASAB and shove even more annoying ads into your face. Either that or leak it to the Federal Bureau for Conversion Therapy so that they can pay you a nice visit. You never know with capitalism in decline.
I was once turned away for a scheduled covid vaccine at a Rite Aid that had been bought out by Walgreens because one of the pharmacy assistants couldn’t figure out how to put my gender into the system.
Same thing happened to my buddy Robert’); DROP TABLE Gender;–
this is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard
I just put male and was done with it. They do make a point to call me “sir” or “gentleman” but IDGAF just gimme my estrogens and let me be on my way
I’m not sure putting male is the right answer for trans women … it’s one thing to have a conversation with a doctor when you need access to gender-affirming care, it’s another when filling out demographic information when scheduling a vaccine outside your normal provider.
Is Walgreens the only available pharmacy?
Ours closed down because they refused to treat customers like humans and locked everything, so you always need an employee to get anything.
There’s a local pharmacy that I get my prescriptions from.
yikes, any updates? I wanna see how it turns out.
what update are you expecting?
it will never be relevant, it’s just demographic information they were collecting because I was scheduling a flu shot …
EDIT: also potentially relevant to the context: people don’t seem to be able to tell I’m trans (to my surprise), so it’s not like I’ll show up as a visibly trans person or anything, I’ve mostly just told medical people I was born without a uterus when they ask for my last period or if I’m pregnant.
