We all know the struggle of beloved services slowly going downhill. What’s one service, tool, or website you’ve been using for years that’s still great and hasn’t turned to crap?

    • I think Linux enshitifcation will happen when Linus Torvalds is no longer the benevolent dictator. I assume bigtech would add more DRM crap for more usecases etc, regular (unintentional) userspace breaking for desktop users since development would be focused for server/cloud computing etc.

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          There’s still danger here. While anyone can fork, it’s painful and work-intensive. A well-funded actor could fork something useful, add a bunch of features the community wants, and do a shitty job of committing back. Once most of the community stops using the old stuff and the devs go back to their lives, we can lose control of useful stuff.

          Stuff like when Signal enshittifies. It has enough inertia and spin up cost that the forks barely see any traffic.

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            The community is already full of so many people who would be willing to make actual, privacy-based distros and prorgrams.

            FOSS exists because there are so many creative people who just want to make this shit for fun and the fuck of it. And I think most of them are not fascists.

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              Torvolds doesn’t make distros. The work that he’s doing isn’t highly creative. It’s boring pain and no one else really wants to take on. He doesn’t have a lot of competition, and hopefully, when he moves on, that vacuum gets another dedicated masochist and doesn’t just usher in a bunch of people bickering and at each other’s throats.

      • I think Linux enshitifcation will happen when Linus Torvalds is no longer the benevolent dictator.

        I hope not. Linus surrounds himself with good people (like Greg Kroah-Hartman) who will take over the reigns and most likely continue the legacy in his name.

        • I may need a plan if the Australian government bans me from having an account with Steam without giving them my ID because it’s “social media” (this isn’t confirmed, the brain fart has been carelessly thrown into the world by the national e-Karen, Steam might be exempt).

      • I think there are three reasons for this:

        1. Steam is not freemium. It’s built on paying customers rather than advertisers.
        2. PC games, unlike TV shows and console games, don’t end up platform exclusives (and because games storefronts aren’t a subscription, there’s no reason for them to be). There are console exclusives but exclusivity has never really made sense for PC games. And without exclusivity there’s genuine competition (even if none succeed at dethroning Steam)
        3. Valve is a private company owned by Gabe Newell, instead of a for-profit. Shareholders are short-sighted.

        That second point got me thinking about Nebula (the streaming service). I don’t believe it’ll be enshittification even though it has exclusives. I wonder why that is.

        • Idk, plenty of companies that tick all three boxes and are not like this at all.
          A single owner vs a company without a principal shareholder & how they threat humans is just a gamble.

          Overall it does have to do with ownership & how the company culture was built tho - in Valve there are like 20 people running a billon monies company. They all have enough, and are happy.

          Oh, and Valve it’s def a “for profit” c company, being an actual non-profit is a completely different thing.

          • It is. And I guess that’s probably enough.

            Nebula exclusives make sense and are being employed. Nebula technically has a monopoly on that content and that’s why I was confused about why I wasn’t worried about Nebula enshittifying. I guess Youtube-adjacent content is mostly interchangable so missing out on exclusive content isn’t on the same level as missing out on a cultural touchstone TV show.

            Also Nebula just isn’t big enough to enshittify. It needs a far larger market share first.

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    Actual paid services? Basically only Steam.

    FOSS is the only software you can count on to not start nickel and diming you once the subscriber count starts to level out.

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    Linux has become better and better and now its incredibly good, better then windows and mac OS if you just spend a few weeks learning the small differences.

  • Signal is good so far. Firefox is teetering on the edge, but it’s also good so far (poor little fox). Lemmy and Mastodon are both great, but maybe that’s EZ mode because they’re built as alternatives to proprietary social media sites.

    I pay for ArsTechnica and I feel that I get a lot of value out of doing so. And keep in mind, being a paying subscriber of a service does not safeguard the service from enshittification, so that’s quite great

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        Some people miss this but Librewolf uses most of the code from Firefox…so its still VERY dependent upon Firefox developers/services to do its thing. Its still better, but if Firefox suffers, then Librewolf does too.

        Theres an excellent graphic here: https://codeberg.org/librewolf/source
        I used to compile and contribute a long time ago. Its pretty easy to get it working and make adjustments…when you know what Firefox does in the background.

        image

        • I used to compile and contribute

          Thank you for your past service o7

          (I want to normalize open source contributors getting the same kind of recognition for providing a Public Good that we currently give to teachers, de-escalatory police, and following-legal-orders military)

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    Kiseido Go Server (KGS)

    If KGS’s UI looks like it hasn’t been updated in 20 years, that’s because it’s already perfect. There’s no ads, it’s purely functional, it does exactly what it needs to do and nothing more. If you click on “KGS Plus” you have the option to spend money on lectures given by human pros. Otherwise it’s completely free, and it’s still an active go server that’s been around forever.

    • I love OpenSCAD and also realize it is a super backward way to make 3D models, according to most other people. I don’t bother even mentioning OpenScad as an option for most people, I know it is only for certain people.

      I tried my hand at modeling and designing using more traditional CAD programs that work more visually. I have good spatial reasoning and visualization abilities but I could never get the breakthrough to a point where I felt literate in those tools.

      Constructive Solid Geometry approaches just work for my brain. Now when I need a part designed, I can quickly sketch it out in rough code and I feel confident seeing myself as a ‘designer’ now. Other more ‘visual’ tools waste my time as I get sucked into finger painting instead of working out the fundamentals of the design.

      With the code-first framework, I have to really think about what the part needs to do before I tweak the code.

      • I’ve worked with 2D CAD programs like Autocad for years, I enjoy working with them. Once I tried 3D modeling, I found the experience frustrating–half of my time was spent typing in parameters anyways. I’m sure with enough practice I could get familiar with it, but modeling 3D shapes with a 2D tool just seems like a losing battle.

        There are times when the sculpting ability would be nice, but it doesn’t come up that often for me. When I need more complex shapes, I’ll use Inkscape to make a 2D profile and import it into OpenSCAD. So far it’s been working well for me.

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    Not an overly surprising one, but the arch wiki has been an incredible source of info with no ads, tracking, or any of the modern web bullshit for as long as I’ve used it.

    They’ve been hit with some pretty major DDOS attacks recently and they’ve done a really good job of keeping the important parts of the service as accessible as possible - they haven’t resorted to buying into cloudflare’s monopoly or blocking vpn users despite either or both being the easy way out.

    For anyone else who’s relied on them as much as I have, now would be a great time to donate!

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      +1 davinci… it’s incredible what you get in the free version, and the studio version is getting more and more worth the money in a value add way rather than a need it way

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      Dropout is pretty good. I don’t think they’ve really been around enough to enshitify yet though. They’re on big up-swing. During that time they’ve been cheap, audience-focused, and fair to their cast and crew. They’ve already raised the price at least once. If they get some loans/investors involved or have a bad year, I could easily see them becoming more like other streaming services. I hope I’m wrong.

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        True, it’s likely too early to tell. I think I just inadvertently compare them to all the other streaming services right now. As for the price increase, that’s only for new subscribers- existing subscribers are grandfathered in at the previous price.

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      Which reminds me, I’ve had a few dropout shows on my jellyfin for a while but really need to drop a sub to support. They do great stuff

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        I swear, I feel like I’ve watched (or have shown off to people unfamiliar with dropout) A Game Most Changed like 5 times.

        Or if they’re straight, Sam Says. Lol

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    Craigslist

    Hasn’t changed much at all, and their app is exactly what it needs to be, nothing more–i think the only thing I wasn’t able to do in the app was clear a saved search, but there’s no bloat, no ads, don’t need an account unless you’re posting or saving searches.

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    My local ISP. They are not a monopoly, they are local only, they provide fiber and great customer service. You call and they answer instantly, they don’t treat you like an idiot when you call. They don’t restrict anything and you have unlimited data. It’s very simple.

    Last month T-mobile bought them after years of great service so I expect the enshittification to come any day now, but so far nothing has changed.