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Sit your ass down in Gaza, Jimbo. Your ‘natural point of view’ will drastically change.
The oligarchs long ago made Jimmy an honorary member of their club, and there’s nothing neutral about that club. Not that “neutral” even exists outside of the mind palace of radical centrists.
Yikes Wikipedia isn’t just infiltrated by Zionists but created by one.
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@geneva_convenience Wiipedia’s creators have no power over it. Their personal beliefs are irrelevant.
No Wikipedia is very influenced by Zionists. This page is proof https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Monitor
False
@BrainInABox Ok
Sorry for doubting your holy scripture
Of course he did. Funny how he had no problem with their being a “Uyghur Genocide” page for multiple years before they eventually had to change it due to lack of evidence
But not calling the Gaza genocide a genocide is a violation of truth, common sense, and basic decency…
But is it neutral? /s
English language Wikipedia is a US psyop. I wonder how much Atlanticist propaganda gets stuffed into other languages’ Wikipedias.
I don’t know if what the Grayzone writes is true (well, probably is), but their choice of words reads unhinged. Coterie, cabal, gang, disciple.
But wait, author is Max Bluementhal, isn’t he the useful imperialist-owned idiot that’s often on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News? Yes he is.
His reporting on Gaza is pretty good and his record is consistent. What imperialist-owners are you referring to?
He’s invited to, and used by Tucker on Fox News to push Fox News’s views and make them normalized and sound, because TC was saying “oh, and leftists agree with me on that” quoting MB.
@cypherpunks he is wrong, as many genocide specialist (including those from Israel) will tell him.
He just supports genocide against people of different colour. It’s the American way.
@cypherpunks Wikipedia is human-edited, and humans are flawed. However, the body of editors overall means it is self-correcting, in time. Jimbo may be a founder, but as an editor, his is one voice only. I think it is grossly unfair to condemn the entire thing over one person’s views. It is still the best source of info there is - overall. Some of the replies here are… disturbing, frankly.
I don’t understand how Wikipedia ended up becoming the literal Holy Scripture for western liberals.
It is still the best source of info there is - overall.
This is a statement of pure religious faith.
@BrainInABox Is there a better one? Note that I said “overall” - meaning it isn’t perfect.
A better one what? The best source of information will depend on the topic. The idea that there is a one stop shop for truth is pure religious thinking
That’s what happens when you lack critical thinking.
We cant afford to be neutral on a moving train.
Now playing System of a Down - Deer Dance
This is not an isolated incident, but a preview: more liberal masks are poised to fall.
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml
There is no neutral POV regarding Genocide! Clainlming there is, just means you support genocide!Wow, with how much the right hated them I just assumed they were good guys. So much for that idea. Will no longer be supporting financially either.
Isn’t the UN like what makes the decision? Like the Geneva convention? Like what body needs to say it’s a genocide for it to be a fact? https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/israel-has-committed-genocide-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds
I can’t even talk on that page. This is how wikipedia dies
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Value judgements? Genocide is an objective thing. It’s clearly defined, with zero “good vs evil” involved in its definition.
It is clearly defined, but deciding what fits that definition and what doesn’t is not at all objective, it totally depends on which side you’re on. And since accusing somebody of something implies you’re yourself innocent, accusing of genocide is saying “they bad we good”, thus dehumanizing “them” as irrational “bad” and rejecting the attempt to understand the conflict in its entirety and in its controversial nature.
Genocide is bad, genocide denialism and apologia is bad. Fuck off
Apart from the fact that virtually every genocide expert has declared this a genocide. Including those from Israel.
All ethical systems rely on example applications. Israel’s morality can not be measured by any moral system. Rather, it’s actions are so abhorrent, that any moral systems merit will in the future be measured by whether it judges Israel’s actions as bad.
Ethics shouldn’t be used in this context in the first place, because ethics is about defining what’s good and what’s bad for you and not about trying to apprehend the manifoldness of things
What a fucking stupid thing to say
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I mean, genocide is pretty objectively bad.
Take this Holocaust denial apologia and fuck off.
I appreciate you taking time to reply!
Fuck off, holocaust denier
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