Lottery tickets.
They’re basically just a tax on the dumb. But man the slogans — all you need is a dollar and a dream, you gotta be in it to win it, etc. — sheer marketing genius.
Its not about the odds. Youre temporarily renting hope in a hopeless world.
I will buy one but that is it. It enhances the fantasy when there is a non zero chance something could happen even if ridiculously unlikely. That being said all the big, dreamworthy jackpots are no longer a dollar and much like fast food that has become to rich for my blood.
I buy one maybe a few times per year. Its also a very good gift to someone. You get a bit of excitement together and there is always that tiny chance of winning.
I call it the stupid tax. I pay it knowing I won’t win but it would be nice to get some fuck you money.
I don’t mind spending 10 a month to maybe pay off my house years early.
The lottery people aren’t looking for one person to buy all the tickets.
If you are buying 10 a month and a significant amount of people think like you then they are going to make bank on that.
If you win I expect a “Fuck You” reply and a picture of a ridiculous amount of cash
At least it is a crown corporation so the money goes to the province not to a private company.
If I ever win, I will track down this comment of yours and show myself posing with an incredibly large pile of loonies($1 coins with a loon on them).
That tax goes both ways.
There are moments where the potential payout for a ticket is greater than the value of the ticket.
In that mathematical moment, buy exactly one ticket.
There are moments where the potential payout for a ticket is greater than the value of the ticket.
Has this ever happened in recent history?
In that mathematical moment, buy exactly one ticket.
I’d say buy as many as you can within the amount of money you’re ready to waste. Same as with investing, pretty much.
The expected payout is negative so no, not similar to investing. It becomes the opposite, pretty much.
Streaming subscriptions. I swear the average nowadays seems to be like 4 per person because ppl don’t know how to torrent anymore

✨alternative✨ streaming services are moral.
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English speakers (and in some cases even other language speakers) can watch pretty much anything nowadays through free streaming sites. Been binging myflixer for over a year.
ppl don’t know how to torrent anymore
I’ll admit I was guilty of this until a few years ago, when I started learning the proper, safer ways.
Adding to this, anything where I’d be paying a publisher middleman. Avoid whenever possible, pay directly if you’re in a position to support the creator/s of smaller projects.
This also applies to other things, like food ordering and travel accommodation. Some places offer a significant discount if you go directly to them - both of you get a bigger cut.
Thanks to Technology Connections - Dishwasher/Laundry pods. Soap with pretty colors, and probably more soap than you need per load. I’ve swapped to powder and literally cannot tell a difference at all, and instead of 8 dollars for 10 loads I now am getting an entire box with like, 40 loads for $8.
And if you want something convenient for laundry they have the laundry sheets that don’t release plastic into your water so that’s nice.
But personally if I want a known amount each time for each load I just use a scoop.
Is liquid detergent still a bad deal? I have no qualms against using powder instead, but my family always stuck to using bulk laundry detergent liquid (I forget the unit size of the 100 load bottle exactly), and I thought that was a good deal.
I’d say it’s better, but not great. Environmentally it still comes with a giant plastic jug that needs to be disposed of, and we all know how plastic recycling is. On your wallet, if you think bout it, you’re not just paying for the soap, but the water and the weight/shipping of that water to get to your home from the factories.
Powder is really the same thing, but you have water at home to mix it with, that happens in your washing machine. So, naturally it is going to be cheaper.
Ah that makes sense. I do reuse the jugs tho, so at least those aren’t wasted.
That’s good, reuse > recycle. We had nothing to do with them so were just recycling these giant jugs all the time. Now we have a big container we pour the detergent into and just scoop it out as we go. Containers are cardboard for the powder
When I swapped to powder it was because I could buy a jug of All free and clear (cheapest brand for hypoallergenic that I could find) for $12. I don’t recall how many loads it did, but I could get the powder online, which was at least the same number of loads but probably way more, same brand same fragrance free formula, for $4.75. They don’t carry the powder in most stores around me, I assume because it’s so much cheaper nobody would buy the overpriced liquid. Same with cheap dish powder; just not available.
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- Nestle products (I am bad at explaining why, and would just again end up researching their shit for 2 hours)
- Alcoholic drinks - kills braincells, and I’d prefer to keep both
- Cigarettes or vapes
- Closed-source software licenses (for personal use)
- Digital content that does not come on physical media
- Hardware with license-unlockable components (e.g. some networking equipment may limit throughput unless you pay more)
Agreed on all points, but especially #1. Fuck Nestle. Every time I buy a new product at the grocery store, I check to make sure they’re not made by Nestle or a subsidiarity of Nestle.
- Phones on contract payment plans
- New monitors: Maybe my eyes suck, but my set of two 21-inch LCD monitors from 2005 is still going strong
- Third-party meal delivery: I’m fine sitting down with a microwaved meal or some canned soup if I don’t feel like cooking
- A new car every x years: My car of choice is old and relatively cheap, so I could afford to pay in full in cash. Bonus of being spyware-free, so I’ll just maintain it for as long as I can.
- Stuff from Aliexpress, Temu and the like: the user experience is horrendous, customer service is nonexistent, and discount codes are pure gimmicks
I was with you up until aliexpress.
There’s definitely junk on there, but if you look for high purchase volume plus good ratings you’ll get plenty of high quality stuff (minus the middle-man markup).
Am wondering, how do you complete a transaction on Aliexpress? On Librewolf and Firefox, something always goes wrong for me at some point, usually a bogus security check failing or buttons mysteriously ceasing to work.
Huh… FF is my main browser and I’ve never had an issue. Could it be an extension issue?
my problem is I can’t even find a car to replace my old one. been trying, but when 2012-2014 is the newest model they make of what I want… hard to find for a reasonable price
I just want a small wagon
I might end up looking at newer stuff, but… how tf am I going to avoid shitty touchscreens, spyware, LED headlights, and all that garbage?
As a fan of sedans and hatchbacks…car shopping is very interesting right now
how so? like just because nobody fucking makes them anymore?
Yup many manufactures stopped making anything other than trucks and SUVs in the US, and if that doesn’t make it enough of a challenge, many buyers (especially locally to me) prefer larger vehicles so I have fewer used options to choose from (and I’m too cheap to buy a new car)
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Slate Truck/SUV ends up being just marketing hype, but I’m keeping my eye on it since they promise a minimalist EV where you plug in the smarts in the form of your own smartphone. Otherwise, it’s just a dumb EV, which is how I’d keep it.
I am ready to be disappointed by it, but I’m not ignoring it. hope they can achieve it
I might end up looking at newer stuff, but… how tf am I going to avoid shitty touchscreens, spyware, LED headlights, and all that garbage?
And going to get harder to avoid a lot of that stuff once enough of them eventually get into the much cheaper levels of the used market. Though by then (and even currently in the higher priced used levels) most of the stuff will no longer even be supported to use (even if you for some reason did find a need to use them and be okay paying).
I got a 2015 Rogue SV that stuff like nav or whatever other stuff doesn’t even have access to the apps from Nissan to set them up. And was like one or two years behind Android Auto or even Apple’s stuff. So can’t just have the main screen just cast my phone’s maps. Really only irritates me when I need to go into settings and see stuff for features I can’t use if I wanted to do so. But the backup camera and phone pairing over blutooth for calls and music works, so that is nice to have and useful daily.
I am torn on replacing the head-unit like I did with my much older cars in the past. But those were so much more easy and “normal” to replace. I mostly worry that since it is much more integrated, that beyond just not flowing with the design, that there would be more problematic issues caused with the electrics (especially after seeing how much just replacing headlights with LEDs messed up a lot of cars when they were not a standard part) and the main computer.
Had really randomly bad issues with my last car’s computer towards the last four or five years that I never had with much older cars before. But is also possible that aside from my much more abusive driving while being younger, that I just hadn’t had something with any computer element (just the main one as it wasn’t anything built-in with lots of features.
ewwww LED headlights
Am I the only one that would never change a car? Like you buy one, shouldn’t you keep it for 60 years? Why should anyone want to change a car? I had to change my car once because I’m Canadian so it rusted. It was awful.
Yeah, my 1st car died a rust death due to its winters in Syracuse (basically a Canadian climate). I’m 40 y/o and my 2nd car is still going strong (much to my wife’s dismay)
This guy frugals.
To this day, I’ve never been tempted to buy a nice display, I’m right there with you. Like, I go to electronics stores for whatever and am dazzled by the bright colours on the modern ones, but not enough to need it when I’m posting on Lemmy, let alone pay an arm and a leg for it.
I don’t know if I could do a new car.
A car. Gas/petrol for a car. A parking spot for a car. Car insurance. A driver’s license. Winter tires for cars. Anything car related.
It’s so ridiculous to pay for a mobile living room that needs to be parked everywhere people go with it.
Sadly, many cities are designed around cars where owning one has become more or less a necessity.
Yeah. I moved into a city and region with enough transit for my needs but my family still lives in a place where there hasn’t been a coach or trains in 30 years. There were before but not anymore. And going to other regions or cities without a car is also becoming more and more difficult, if not impossible.
Unfortunately my province and country only care about cars. I really don’t want to drive but I fear that I won’t have any other choice at some point in the future because my other options are actively deteriorating.
For me the car meant i felt like a grown up with tons of freedom. I can go anywhere, see anything.
I used to feel like you until i got one. But now, no way im ever living without one again. Its a life upgrade you cant go back from.
And people actually use that as an insult. “You’re not an adult until you own a car”. Which is a sad way of seeing millions of people that have been living without a car for their whole life.
And the freedom feeling depends mostly if you live in a region that is offering you ways not to be car dependent. Where I live, we have a very decent network of bike paths in the city but also going into the countryside and traversing the province. I live on the island of an archipelago and can pull my inflatable kayak with my bike trailer, explore the islands around, access nature nearby. I can also go camping and hiking and into the wilderness 200 km away by using this cycling network. I often go visit my parents and family 140-170 km away by cycling there. I could have start to drive and bought a car 25 years ago but I moved somewhere I wouldn’t need one, and my bike represents freedom. I’m free from having to pay big oil to fill a tank to go anywhere. I’m free from monthly parking fees. I’m free from paying the plates and the insurance.
Over the years, what I learned about cars don’t make me see them as freedom. I see them as a way to keep people perpetually paying for gas, sending billions to big oil. I see them as an endless sea and stream of pollution. They pollute the air and the sound. They are bad for mental and physical health. They take an ungodly amount of space. They kill about a million people every year. On the planet, every 30 seconds someone is killed in a car related “accident”. Every year, two billion animals (yes, billions) are killed by cars.
Going to see my nephew for his birthday in the suburbs where my sister lives is comical. Twelve people invited to go park their cars around a house that only has space for the cars of the occupants. You have to find parking everywhere you go for this thing, then whine that there’s no parking anywhere. Going to a funereal is also depressing, but even more so because you can see the traffic and congestion created by someone that died.
Cars are a horrible for humanity. They’re like a drug that everyone tells you to try. You’ll see. They’re so useful. Of course you can’t go back.
I can see your point but almost no people are going to prefer going shopping on a bike (or kayak).
Its nice that you live like that. Sounds very cool, but cars are there for a reason… :) People need to actually get their stuff done quickly and conveniently.
Sure, all the downsides you mentioned are there, but lets not be blind to the enormous upsides that you can literally go anywhere without effort or being exposed to the weather.
Why are you trying to convince me that cars are awesome and for adults that needs to get stuff done?
You think I go shopping using a kayak? There are literally the biggest retail stores of my country a few street corners away from where I live. There is a grocery store on the other side of the street.
And you know, people without cars have nothing to do all day. They don’t work and don’t do anything important. Only people with cars are busy people getting stuff done. It’s impossible to get stuff done otherwise.
Not to mention that peole without cars will never feel like real adults.
I’m not an adult and I don’t get stuff done because I don’t have a car? I can’t go shopping? WTF?
Keep your “freedom”. I don’t want it. There’s already enough cars in the streets. You don’t want me driving. Stop trying to convince people that don’t want to drive. You have nothing to gain. Everyone already loves cars. I know that.
I’m glad that you love your car. You’re not the only one. Now can some people actually want to live without one or are you going to force yours into my living room to tell me how useful it is, and how it makes you feel mature and important?
Lol. :)
Ok mate, have a good day…
So I guess never by a car so you can live without one.
A brand new car.
Buy used, let someone else take the depreciation hit.
With how complex (and unrepairable) modern cars are, in a few years the used car prices will probably shoot up because of flailing supply.
Yeah, my car is 18 years old, has almost 300k miles on it, and because it’s desirable and not made anymore, it’s still worth about half what I paid for it 14 years ago.
I doubt anyone will pay half the price of a 4 year old model if its 18 years old…!
A lot of things break on cars that old, so any buyer has to be a bit stupid to pay that price…
Want to see crazy used car prices? Look at small Toyota trucks in southern California. The prices are insane because many people want a small basic truck for work. The 22R and 22RE engines live long and if they do die it is easy to source a rebuilt engine.
Yep, and nobody makes a true equivalent to the small pickup anymore. Even the Ford Maverick is bigger than 90s Tacomas, and Rangers
Small trucks cannot be imported into the US due to the Chicken Tax. American companies will not build small trucks because they like the profits from large SUVs and trucks.
Yep. There also emissions vs weight or payload of the vehicle regulations that make it even less profitable to produce small pickups here.
It all depends on what car it is. Obviously, nobody is dumb enough to pay that on an 18 year old KIA or Hyundai.
A lot of things break on cars that old, so any buyer has to be a bit stupid to pay that price…
laughs in a 30 year old van, that gained about 40% of value since I bought it 3 years ago
If it was built well, and is simple enough, it’s not too much of a hassle and you can maintain a lot of it yourself. Most new cars are complicated garbage that breaks constantly straight out of the factory, and you have to take it to a mechanic to do anything because of their complexity and proprietary software. Compare that to my van, where I can read the OBD2 error codes on my phone over bluetooth with a $10 dongle, and can do most basic maintenance (oil, ATF, spark plugs, belts) with basic hand tools and a car pit.
Yeah I understand the value of that. We can see it also in consumer electronics, or any consumer product really, how its designed to break right after warranty.
Its fun to hear from these companies how they care about the environment while at the same time producing endless things that will end up in the trash in just a few years.
Fully automated coffee machines. I love coffee but these things suck, coffee tastes weak and they often break. They even mold inside.
The best pourover kits in existence cost like $25 USD max too. There’s no reason to not learn how to do it right.
You will still need a good grinder for your beans and those things are expensive. Assuming you don’t want plastic bits in your grind.
True. I have a decent hand-one for $50, but they can get pretty expensive.
I use an Aergrind by Knock ($150ish). It’s been fantastic for my Flair as well as pour overs. It is a manual grinder, but I don’t have the money to not do manual.
Yeah. I have a somewhat cheap one at around $300, but if you don’t wanna buy, try looking for local roasteries. They usually offer preground options. Even some coffee shops will grind it for you if you ask nicely. Their grinders are usually much fancier than whatever any enthusiast will buy anyway.
I have that option, but… supposedly… preground coffee is just not the same.
Use it within a week or so, and it’s very close. Hell, I’d say even two weeks is fine; but it may depend on your method of brewing, and sensitivity of palate. You can even freeze part of the grounds to keep them fresh for longer. James Hoffmann did a nice video about it.
If you really want to grind yourself, you can get really nice hand grinders for around $150 from 1Zpresso. If you’re on a tighter budget, Timemore C3 is a good cheaper optiosn, that’s good enough for anything that’s not espresso, or turkish coffee.
Nice. Might try the freezing part. I’ve just been using a moka pot, nothing fancy.
I’ve edited my comment with some more recommendations. Mokapots are very forgiving, so you’ll be fine with preground coffee. If you get a decent hand grinder, I’ll bet money that you can’t tell the difference between that and any fancy grinder, Mokapots are just that forgiving.
Making coffee like a barista is infinitely more satisfying. A combined coffee machine: grinder and pressured hot water is bound to be cheaper than a fully automated one. You can push the grains down yourself, and make the coffee as strong or weak as you like.
Love my aeropress.
After building my first pc I will never buy a pre built again. I might never buy a pc again (pc of thesius!)
At some point if you decide you want a significantly newer or more powerful CPU or GPU (for example), there’s a solid chance you’ll need to replace the motherboard or the power supply. At that point, we’re playing Theseus.
Then again, mine was a 10 year old budget build and my hobbies changed significantly, so you might not actually need to upgrade at all if your computing needs aren’t hungry.
Yeah, replacing the motherboard is when I begin to consider building a new one and repurposing my current one. Because if I’m replacing the mobo, I’m probably going to have to replace the CPU and RAM, because the sockets will be different. And at that point, I might as well just go ahead and replace the PSU too, so the rating is up to date. Now I can rip out my old GPU and move it over, but that would leave my old build without one… And what if I wanted to use it for something that would potentially need a GPU, like a 4k Plex/Jellyfin server? My cooler can probably be repurposed, at least?
I might as well just go ahead and replace the PSU too, so the rating is up to date
A good PSU will have an 8-10 year or longer warranty so that’ll should a couple of refresh cycles or more usually. Especially if you’re upgrading every 3 years (I’m on a 5-10 year cycle, or more accurately a “whenever a key component dies or is truly no longer up to the task at hand” cycle)
you’re only saying that because you have the one computer
wait until you start running your own servers and whatnot. used prebuilts with some expansion room are the most cost effective
for my gaming pc, though? fuck no. just keep changing parts out as required
wait until you start running your own servers and whatnot
Oh yeah I forgot about that, I’ve already bought several computers by that metric.
I built my PC in 2003. I upgraded it 3 times. I still use the same case.
Television. It’s like paying to see ads.
Hand soap. Dish soap works better and you can use it on dishes in addition to your hands.
A dining table. I eat at my desk or standing at a counter. I was pressured into buying one by family because it was apparently bizarre to them I did not have one. Got the cheapest one I could find to appease them. I have now owned it for 4 years and it has never been used once, it just takes up space.
Just wanted to add that dish soap is actually very strong and removes all the natrual oils from your skin. If you are prone to sensitive skin it’s a bad habit to regularly use dish soap as it can aggrivate it. Every now and then isn’t going to hurt though.
I’ve had glasses for a long time and interestingly they clean better with hand soap. Many have suggested to use dish soap but it seems to be less effective. I’d imagine most of the stains come from being in contact with skin so I’m a bit surprised.
True enough. I haven’t had any problems in using it myself but I supposed you could ratio it with some water or something to make it not as intense for hands.
It’s a lot cheaper than hand soap too so in doing this you could probably get a tonne of hand washes out of it for really cheap.
The primary downside to it for me is that it lasts ages and I get kind of tired of the smell.
Soap and detergent are different things. A bar of soap is way cheaper than dishwashing liquid.
Yes but I think there is a miscommunication here.
I’m not talking about detergent/dishwashing liquid - I’m talking about liquid dish soap which I can purchase locally for about $3 to the litre and is a different thing.
Detergent/dishwashing liquid is definitely much more expensive and probably would not be great for washing hands.
Bar soap is definitely still cheaper though overall, you are correct.
Hand soap. Dish soap works better and you can use it on dishes in addition to your hands.
I was always told it would fuck up your hands. Does it?
It makes mine dry as fuck, but you can always moisturize with lotion after
I’d rather buy handsoap for a few cents than moisturize my hands every time.
Not in my experience. I guess it might depend on the brand or affect individuals differently, but I’ve been using grocery store off-brand dish soap for this for like 10 years and never had a problem.
Television. It’s like paying to see ads.
+. And the only couple of local channels I’d even consider watching can be viewed online for free anyway.
Not if you have a media player… I dont watch anything with ads.
Yes, that’s what I mean. I don’t pay for TV because I just put all of my media on a Jellyfin server as I also don’t want to watch ads, let alone pay to watch ads.
Cucumber, because fuck cucumber.
With the caveat that if it’s small and you pickle it, I’m down.
Besides that, and I can’t express this more clearly, FUCK CUCUMBER. Infects everything it touches, permeates the air, tastes like old water, smells like… Foetid moss or watery algae.
I gather the hatred some people like me carry for pukecumber has a genetic root.
This guy does not cucumber
With the caveat that if it’s small and you pickle it, I’m down.
Good answer.
I gather the hatred some people like me carry for pukecumber has a genetic root.

Dryer sheets
Also not sure how to search within a thread on piefed app…
Buy dryer balls, they are reusable and last for as long as you don’t lose them.
We got a four pack that became a 3 pack after the first day until my wife found the fourth one in the hood of a hoodie she hadn’t worn in a while.
But why? Why is having static-y clothes a problem.
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