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durinn ( emotional_soup_88@programming.dev )  to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 10 months ago

I bought a handheld computer, now Google says I'm not allowed to do whatever the hell I want to it

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I bought a handheld computer, now Google says I'm not allowed to do whatever the hell I want to it

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durinn ( emotional_soup_88@programming.dev )  to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 10 months ago
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Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

https://www.change.org/p/stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

I hope that my rooted One UI 7 doesn’t get the update through some backdoor in the Google Play Services package… Or the next time I unblock Google Play to update the very few paid apps that I use…

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  • CerebralHawks ( cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    10 months ago

    Google doesn’t sell any devices that run OneUI, which makes your post somewhat disingenuous… and strengthens your point. You bought the device from Samsung, so you are even more right to be news at what Google is doing since you are not Google’s customer.

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      It’s like on my old Nvidia SHIELD, an update rolled in and all of a sudden there are ads on the homepage. Some people were ok with TV/movie ads being on a TV/movie device, but, why the hell would I want ads for content only available on services that I don’t have? If they’d at least only given me ads for the services it knew I was subscribed to, I would have at least been less pissed off since it could have been useful.

      Reached out to Nvidia and they say there isn’t anything they can do, it’s built that way by Google. By no means do I just blindly accept that that was accurate, but, it’s still bullshit that with a basic update all of a sudden the nature of my device was completely changed (imo) and I’m expected to just suck it up or work around it with 3rd party launchers that weren’t as polished.

      Dunno if it’s gotten better/worse in the last couple years, mine died and I elected to not replace it with another Android device.

      • lazynooblet ( lazynooblet@lazysoci.al ) 
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        Just like android phones, the “launcher” in the shield is just the default. You can download a replacement launcher. I’m using Projectivy.

        https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spocky.projengmenu&hl=en_GB

        https://troypoint.com/projectivy-launcher/

    • durinn ( emotional_soup_88@programming.dev ) OP
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      I agree, I tried to shove two themes into one. Samsung’s decision to disable bootloader unlocking from OneUI 8 just kind of puts more weight on Google’s decision on disallowing unauthenticated apks. For Samsung users, that is.

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    Everyone should be degoogling their devices before malware gets installed by an update. Get rid of windows while you’re at it. This may take time, so start now.

    • durinn ( emotional_soup_88@programming.dev ) OP
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      Running Linux since 2019. ;)

      Getting rid of gapps on my phone will take some more tinkering, since certain apps that required to get by in my society rely on Play Services. But I’m getting there!

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    Just switch to Pixel. I’ve got mine (9a) for around 500€.

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      Is that a joke?

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        Unironically, the Google Pixel is ironically one of the best phones you can get to de-Google your smartphone experience. For now.

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          Specifically if you use GrapheneOS. Pretty easy to install, I’ve been on it for a couple months now and it’s great.

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          Clown world. They’re one update away from banning that any second you’re putting too much trust in them

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      Yeah, I’ve had my eyes on a Pixel for a few months now. Maybe I could even keep my Samsung an compartmentalize shit: pixel for private use, Samsung for google shit

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    Just reinstall the OS without gapps. Done.

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      In my country, that’s a hard bargain, as we need certain apps that rely on gapps to identify ourselves in formal dealings with nation, county and city actors. But yeah, Graphene’s sandboxed Google Play Services would be a good start for me.

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        Yeah, just install GrapheneOS, set up your initial profile without anything Google, then configure the secondary profile with GMS and everything else you need to run with Google on it.

        That’s how I have both phones, and I only visit the profile with Google services if I absolutely need to. Once dine, I log out that user until I need it again.

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        I highly doubt a smartphone is a requirement. They probably have an alternative you’re not considering

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          The general attitude is that you are required to be digitally literate and that you have the “required” equipment. Just like many businesses nowadays take it for granted that you have a card to pay with.

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            Most governments have laws that force companies to accept legal tender.

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