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  • NigelFrobisher ( NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ) 
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    No-one has any biological job. Live how you want.

    • huppakee ( huppakee@piefed.social ) 
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      Even if we had it, imagine how small your life is if you actually believe we are born to do a biological job.

    • prettybunnys ( prettybunnys@piefed.social ) 
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      I disagree.

      I have a biological imperative to turn garbage food into poop.

      • rumba ( rumba@lemmy.zip ) 
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        I mean, it’s a job, you can quit any time you want.

        it’s not a good idea to quit…

  • Aequitas ( Aequitas@feddit.org ) 
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    I don’t like this logic. It implies that a person’s value depends on their achievements. The only difference between the two is what the most important achievements are. Ultimately, this reinforces the right-wing logic that there are people of different values.

    • Dyskolos ( Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ) 
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      deleted by creator

      • Alcoholicorn ( Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ) 
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        Synthesis: All man is created equal, except those who give money to the richest man in the world for a louder voice on a nazi forum.

      • halvar ( halvar@lemy.lol ) 
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        I thought that was Threads.

    • halvar ( halvar@lemy.lol ) 
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      I would say starting an argument from a point of view which the other is guaranteed to agree with is a great tool to convince people.

      In this case it’s pretty obvious that people who say shit like “women only exist to bare children” will also look up to people with great achievements to their name. As such these two beliefs can be played against eachother.

      If it won’t convince the original bum saying the stupid, it will be a very spectacular way to disarm their logic in front of other people with similar but not so extreme opinions.

      • Aequitas ( Aequitas@feddit.org ) 
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        Sure, but it still reinforces the neoliberal view of humanity and ideology by affirming them. And what about all the millions of women who have not made any great scientific or other achievements and never will that did not have children by the age of 24? Have they then indeed failed in life?

        • petrol_sniff_king ( petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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          The root implication of manversusbaby’s reply is that child birth is not the only thing women can achieve. The purpose of using great examples like Marie Curie is to bury jaicilgin in the ground, not to impose greatness on everyone else.

          The “less great” achievements, such as living with endometriosis, being funny, knowing a lot about birds, being able to knit a sweater, while being a woman are not forgotten, they’re just not as punchy.

        • Wren ( Wren@lemmy.today ) 
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          I’m one of those women and: Yes. What’s he gonna do about it? I’m out here being a happy little failure, living rent free in the minds of alpha bros everyehere.

        • bobo ( bobo@lemmy.ml ) 
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          In capitalism you must breed or make profit, nothing else is worthwhile.

    • mrgoosmoos ( mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ) 
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      but there are people of different values.

      for example, people who think others are not worth much are themselves worthless.

      • prenatal_confusion ( prenatal_confusion@feddit.org ) 
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        Karl popper just started spinning in his grave

  • FunkyCheese ( Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Just throwing it out there, that scientific discoveries can be done by married mothers as well

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      Marie Curie was, in fact, a married mother when she did the work that earned her two Nobel Prizes in separate fields.

  • FiniteBanjo ( FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ) 
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    Listen, power to women, and Vera Rubin’s work was amazing and she deserves every praise.

    But nobody has ever proven the existence of Dark Matter. What’s proven is that our current mathematical models do not accurately represent the universe due to the way things move and effects of gravity, under our current understanding, requiring a large amount of mass that we have not observed.

    Does that make sense? It could be that our models or understandings are just wrong, or it could be that there is some magical unobservable matter, but we don’t know. We haven’t proven anything.

    The reason I think this is important is because we keep throwing money at bigger and bigger dark matter detection chambers, and we keep operating on the possibly incorrect assumption of dark matter while we create new theories.

    • Ada ( ada@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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      What’s proven is that our current mathematical models do not accurately represent the universe due to the way things move and effects of gravity

      This is actually the bit that Vera Rubin discovered. The summary of her discovery in the quote is the issue :)

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        That’s… What finitebanjo said?

        • Ada ( ada@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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          Originally, banjos post read like the line about Vera Rubin was outright incorrect, rather than simply being a case of the OP in the image making a poor summary of her contributions.

          It sounded like Banjo was challenging Vera’s relevance in the list, rather than clarifying what she actually did

          • FiniteBanjo ( FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ) 
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            I would not make praising her the opening statement of my comment if I were challenging her contributions.

            • Ada ( ada@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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              Broadly, what you said was “Power to her, but what’s proven is that our current mathematical models do not accurately represent the universe”. The “but” in that statement is that issue, as it sounds like you’re challenging her findings with a correction, but your correction was just to summarise her actual findings

              • FiniteBanjo ( FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ) 
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                Her achievment is proving the current mathematical models do not represent the universe and explaining why, where many men before her utterly failed.

                Her achievment is not proving the existence of dark matter.

                The “but” is very warranted and I honestly feel like the “dark matter is real” zealots are the ones besmirching her name by misrepresenting her accomplishments.

                • Ada ( ada@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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                  What I’m getting at is that your “but” made it sound like you were challenging her findings, rather than images incorrect summary of her findings.

        • [deleted] ( snooggums@piefed.world ) 
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          Nope.

          • FiniteBanjo ( FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ) 
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            Yes, it was.

    • FishFace ( FishFace@piefed.social ) 
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      How would you go about proving the existence of regular matter?

      • FiniteBanjo ( FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ) 
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        I think therefor I am, I guess.

        • FishFace ( FishFace@piefed.social ) 
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          How do you know you’re made of matter?

          • FiniteBanjo ( FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ) 
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            Matter describes what exists.

            • FishFace ( FishFace@piefed.social ) 
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              So, dark matter is matter?

              • FiniteBanjo ( FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ) 
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                Dark matter has never been proven to exist.

                • FishFace ( FishFace@piefed.social ) 
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                  The only matter you’ve proven to exist is your own consciousness, so that’s not saying much.

                  Since you’ve defined matter to be everything that exists, you must believe that whatever is the explanation for dark matter is matter, since it exists.

  • I Cast Fist ( ICastFist@programming.dev ) 
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    Related: Gertrude Bell, mountain climber, archaeologist and overall badass british lady that helped shape the middle east post WW1. Despite being a woman, she managed to earn the respect of several nomad arab tribes, you know, those that see women as a man’s property? Those. To the point that, when she died, they all came to her burial and ensured she was treated like a queen.

    A very good, 3h17m doc on her life - https://youtu.be/anjha4JNAWg

  • JackBinimbul ( JackBinimbul@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Guarantee you he still thinks they are failures. His dick goes limp the moment he sees a woman with a job.

  • LillyPip ( LillyPip@lemmy.ca ) 
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    I had my son at 28, not by 24. Speedrun: FAILED.

    Oh, and wrote my first novel at 50. Also FAILED, apparently.

  • ChaoticNeutralCzech ( ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ) 
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    McClintock did her Nobel-winning work in her 40s, and it went unappreciated for 30 years because nobody believed her. An inspiring story for sure, but not one of an elderly woman discovering new biology.

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    The types of people who believe a woman’s only “biological job” is to shit out kids are the same fuckers who haven’t achieved shit in their lives.

  • Daisy (she/her) ( TechieDamien@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Don’t forget Noether! She discovered one of the most fundamental theorems of the universe: (paraphrasing) there is a 1:1 relationship between a conservation law (eg momentum) and symmetry (eg spacetime). This has shaped a lot of modern physics and helped explain otherwise unexplainable phenomena!

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    This just reeks of ragebait/engagement farming.

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      You don’t love a pointlessly gendered meme debate while the world is burning due to class warfare?

      • JackBinimbul ( JackBinimbul@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Gender has always been part of the class war.

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    At least he wears his red flags on his sleeve.

  • Petter1 ( Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    Rage bait…

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    Even if that was true, no-one’s going to want to do it with jaicilgin.

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    Fascist dickheads don’t deserve good answers, it’s hate that drives them not logic

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