I modified a image I saw going around last year on Global Switch Day
https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/1ijmkc0/make_the_switch_away_from_meta/
Perhaps we could use it to make people aware of Reddit alternatives etc. If you can imporve upon the image please do so, and feel free to use it.
I just threw it together in KolourPaint in a few min.
No Lemmy?
PieFed > Lemmy (In my opinion)
I switched to PieFed a while ago, it’s the same thing but better (IMO)
It also doesn’t have any of the controversy that comes with Lemmy, and the UX is a lot better (IMO)It also has quite a few nice features that Lemmy lacks. Try out both, see which you like.
Damn. Trashing Lemmy on Lemmy.
In a way yes, because this post is in a community running on a Lemmy instance. But at the same time: The user was did not use Lemmy to write the Lemmy trashing :)
(And Lemmy is good. It’s just, PieFed is so much better!)
If that’s trashing, most debates I’ve seen would be bloodbaths. e.e"
Irony aside, if someone is politely criticized, what seems to be what the OP did, and the receiver sees it as a problem, the receiver shouldn’t be a public figure.
A tradition brought over from Reddit, where people were constantly shitting on Reddit hah
And getting upvoted for it by other piefed users
If you’re on mobile you probably won’t really notice much of a difference, the mobile apps are yet to implement the new features.
Mlem is doing a pretty good job of adding features as their apis become available. I have a feeling the next TestFlight will have polls added.
Please elaborate. What’s better on Piefed?
Some additional features that PieFed has:
- You can create posts with polls.
- Crossposts shows comments from everywhere that something is crossposted to (organized into their own sections)
- Feeds for combining multiple communities into one.
- You can blur images with spoiler tags instead of having to use NSFW.
- You can tag posts and then filter down posts based on those tags within a community.
- You can set a time/date for when something gets posted.
That’s just what I can think of off the top of my head. Otherwise a more complete list can be found here: https://join.piefed.social/features/
Awesome! Definitely need to check that out.
Best feature, a working block feature.
All communities with the word ‘meme’ in the name are automatically flagged as low quality but admins can override this on a case-by-case basis.
ok you got me interested
EDIT :
Default Blocks – Lemmygrad, Hexbear, and Nazi instances are blocked out of the box.
wait what? I might not have the whole lore but this reads as “communism” is not allowed. I guess that’s a feature for some people.
It has more features than Lemmy atm, such as custom feeds, flairs or tags or whatever you call them, community moving, etc. (Some of which will also come to Lemmy in v1.0.0): https://join.piefed.social/features/
Since it uses Python and not Rust, it can be developed faster* => faster development and more first time contributions.
Of course it isn’t perfect, it has its downsides as any other software. You might also find it more attractive if you don’t like the Lemmy devs’ political views.
Though it is a bit opinionated, it’s good to have another alternative in the threadiverse.
Though it is a bit opinionated, it’s good to have another alternative in the threadiverse.
Whatever happened to kbin -> mbin? That was another early threadiverse alternative, but I don’t hear much about it anymore.
Mbin still exists https://fedidb.com/software/mbin
although the biggest instance, fedia.io, no longer allows anonymous viewing, which is kind of a shame
Thanks. I was wondering if mbin was still actively being used and developed.
looking at their Github they’re still very active in development! If you want to follow their news !mbinReleases@gehirneimer.de
Mbin is not as popular as Lemmy or Piefed, so nobody talks about it. Even before Piefed started being popular, Kbin was still not that popular compared to Lemmy in the past nor Piefed right now (might be an exaggeration).
With the Kbin lead dev, Ernest, not being active enough (due to medical reasons), the community forked Kbin, which is what we know today as Mbin.
https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/1383#issuecomment-1999046
Thanks. I knew that kbin had been forked to mbin, but didn’t know whether mbin development had continued after that.
what features are worth the increased censorship tools?
What censorship tools?
user reputation scores
It also doesn’t have any of the controversy that comes with Lemmy
Oh you sweet summer child.
They’re just hard coding keywords to limit reach of usauthoritarianism and queer community.
https://fedia.io/m/memes@lemmy.world/t/3230397/-/comment/13562251
You’ll need to login to view content, because they got the original post deleted but it’s still cached on fedia.
From what I remember it was about some discover feed feature or something and they tried to curate it a bit, remove greentexts and stuff that had a ton of posts or something.
It was an anti meme feature that has since been removed on request. The PieFed devs are very open to the community and act lighting fast.
Meanwhile people have been asking Lemmy for a working block function for years and they refuse. And let’s not forget the hardcoded front page banners Lemmy puts on all instances begging for donations to do who knows what as it never updates.
Same candy, different wrapper.
Seconded, and using Interstellar on Android.
Correct, No to Lemmy. :)
Awww… ):
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Please note that I am not referring to specific instances like lemmy.ml or lemmygrad.
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Thanks, I guess. You seem like a very nice and reasonable person.
Bold words coming from a supporter of russian genocidal imperialism!
And please don’t play dumb! We both know the overwhelming majority of tankies only speak English and at absolute best may have visited Europe for a week 20 years ago (let alone Cuba or China).
What are you even talking about?? English is my second language and I lived in Europe almost my entire life. And I visited Cuba, it was nice.
The great majority of the world’s “tankies” aren’t from the Global North but from the Global South and from actually-existing socialist states like China, Vietnam, and Cuba.
Totally!
They don’t look at you and see a demagogue who is roleplaying online, oh no.
It’s funny how you talk big about the “global south” and “actually-existing socialist states” and yet you have a very orientalist and honestly racist worldview.
You think people in Cuba or say Vietnam are idiots who can’t see through basic bullshit.
I can tell how much grass you touch based on this comment alone
Brah, “touch grass bla bla” is pretty stale by this point.
Btw, it’s winter in the northern hemisphere!
Even tagged them, wow
Your arrogance is beyond words, personally attacking the devs that created and tirelessly maintain the very platform you’re using to write this garbage comment.
Go use reddit, it will align with your worldview much better since it is run by corporations that sell your data for profit, making use of their god given right to “personal freedom” as defined by the CIA, and don’t allow anything left of Mussolini on their platform.
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Not new, and I’m fine with lemmygrad but thanks for the concern. I’ll make sure to avoid the likes of you instead
You did not suggest anything, you came in flying with insults
Oh nooo, I insulted a product which is developed by mentally unstable people, how could I. Forgot that we are in church here, sorry mate
Eh, insulting is fine, insulting without a stated reason is just confusing, gotta give people some context.
To be honest I’m not fine with being insulted by that guy.
Basically the context is this: !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
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Imagine being angry at dessalines.
Fuck Dessalines and Nutomic. Not for their politics, but because they are petty power hungry assholes.
wtf? you mean reddit -> lemmy right?
PieFed = Lemmy but better. (In my opinion)
They share the same content, but PieFed has more features and better UX.
I’m typing this from PieFed right now
Piefed is a perfectly fine alternative to Reddit.
RIGHT?
It could also be lemmy/piefed since both are interoperable.
80% the people on TT, YT and IG are there to follow content creators that are only on those platforms to make money.
Until creators can easily make money on Fediverse platforms, they’ll always play second fiddle to closed platforms that market and share profits, no matter how crappy the returns are.
Maybe it’s just me, but the influencer type content creators are part of what I’m fleeing from in the mainstream social media options. The internet is better without them. The gamification and monitization leads to enshittification. Reddit really started going to shit when the same people’s posts were always on the front page, and then you had the same people modding and gaming their communities to push it. I personally would hate if that happened to fediverse alternatives.
I don’t really care that much about influencers, the fake outrage and fake indignation. I want to watch people play games I can’t afford and don’t have time to dedicate to playing. And I don’t want to watch it live, I want to start it when I feel like it and stop it when I’m busy. I want some astrophysics news, some people cooking some shit. All those people are solely there because they can afford to stop their day jobs and make something interesting. I want to see some great scott and some tom scott.
The ideal is people doing it just because they can, but how many people have the financial means for that? I’d say another reason for Reddit going to shit is all the people wanting to express themselves somehow, but only having a little bit of time to type something out on their phones and not enough to put thought or research into what they are saying. Streamers, youtubers etc. put a lot of work and practice into making something someone might consider good, and a lot of that is only possible because they get paid and so don’t have to get another full time job that removes any time for creative pursuits.
This. There are alternative video hosting platforms; none of them are really alternatives to YouTube itself until the content creators also move.
This is a big thing I’ve been thinking about with Youtube. People clearly have problems with it. But they’re so locked in that they feel they can’t move to another platform.
I don’t even think they creators need to make a full jump for Peertube to grow. But having content Cross-posted, and for creators to go “and if you want an alternative to YouTube, I’m also on PeerTube” would go a long way.
Floatplane in particular seems promising, but between them and viva plus, they really outline how expensive it is to try to do it Youtube style. But then you have things like odysee where they just barely monetize, and you see what hot trash that brings in.
It’s a hard nut to crack.
Then we can get new creators and a new kind of community.
Something different, can still grow and be beautiful.
checks the age of peertube and the almost complete lack of interesting content
is it gonna start soon? It’s almost a decade old and there’s nothing interesting at all outside of a couple Linux people.
https://video.echelon.pl/c/ua_war_videos/videos is good. And there’s interesting stuff about urban development.
This video, as others published by the same person, a is good: https://video.canadiancivil.com/videos/watch/30b3139b-070c-45f5-823e-dae3f82efdd4
There are more in my saved videos, but these seemed the best things to select out now.
I totally get your point. I want to like it too, but so far the only channels that I’ve found worth following are Veronica Explains and The Linux Experiment, and even then, Veronica doesn’t post very often. I was also following a comics channel but they faded away.
Recording, Editing and Posting video is exhausting. Assume that you get your donations in order from whatever service, you can then post it on yourube and get a extra pittance, or post it on peertube and get nothing, you’ll have to have some other reason to give up the pittance.
Hell, there’s more non-rightwing content on odysee than there is on peertube.
@rumba This is where we need to showcase things like Patreon and other ways of people making money from people who truly enjoy there work, pay people not corporations.
now go convince all those creators making a living that have both youtube and patreon money coming in to post on a free only alternative and just go to patreon income.
I know it’s not as simple as that, but creators are annoyed of these platforms, mirroring your content on the Fediverse is easy through PeerTube and having ‘uncensored’ or less restricted videos be uploaded onto PeerTube can help.
Honestly, the fact they complain about the platforms all the time while doing nothing to leave those platforms what-so-ever just feels like another manipulation tactic like clickbait titles and thumbnails.
As someone who creates stuff myself, I know how it is, It’s hard to move away from the platforms when there’s so many more people that see’s your content on them.
I wish I could get half the people that get to see my content on PeerTube but sadly as of the moment it’s not the case.
Small creators, sure. The huge ones with millions of subscribers, tho? If they left, their audience would follow them.
it’s super easy to get the content on to peer tube, just not financially sound.
Just saw a headline that says apple is gonna try to start taking a 30% cut on patreon payments…
Lots of people are upset with the censorship happening on TikTok and are uninstalling TikTok, this image might be useful to show to them.
I wish Peertube had more content, although I may just be actual garbage at finding it.
I recently contacted a content creator at youtue asking if they might also share their content on peertube as they have the rights to do so. Maybe this is a way of getting more content.
Since the videos are already made for yt it shouldn’t be a lot of more work to do for creators.
This is the issue with fediverse in general: lack of content. I’m sure people can figure out how to join … it’s not any more complicated than joining Bluesky, and that has exploded in growth. Why? Because everybody is on there.
it can be tough to find good stuff on there. I had a personal peertube instance that I had setup but I ended up shutting it down, i rarely used it and couldn’t find a lot of good stuff on there.
Take a look over at !peertube@lemmy.world It would be great if more people knew about it and posted/interacted.
Also https://piefed.social/f/fediversevideos or join (if you are piefed) here ~fediversevideos@piefed.social
Thank you!
No problem! Enjoy.
found this awesome peertuber, he is super cool: blinmaster@peertube.wtf (its my own channel and i found a place to plug it :3)
My god, thank you for putting the names under the logos. I’ve seen too many people just put the logos without any text because it’s “clean”, but then the viewers have no idea what to search for lol
Piefed / Lemmy / Mbin
Agreed, but choice fatigue also needs to be considered. Pick your favorite and promote it to people.
Well let’s add facebook & discord alts as well.
Revolt got at cease and desist for the name. They renamed it to Stoat.
It kind of looks like Stoat is just an Open Source Discord clone?
While the idea is great, it looks like all their servers are hosted by them (correct me if I’m wrong). Was really hoping for some kind of self hosted Discord where all the data is stored locally.I use Mumble currently, which is great for voice chat, but there are simply not enough features.Edit: Actually I found the github page and it seems like there is a way to deploy this locally. Disregard
Matrix & XMPP ?
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I wish there were a better name that represents lemmy & piefed. I know “threadiverse” is probably the “correct” name but it’s a bit… shit.
It’s not the best, but I still haven’t seen anything better
I think both names, Lemmy and piefed, are easy to remember. They are no more goofy than any other name, past or present, on the internet.
People are fleeing to another close source centralized app that’s not federated. People will use anything but Fediverse. :(
Probably the clearest indicator that the lack of technological literacy in mass market society means that marketing budgets are incredibly effective, and most won’t question the incentives of the platform holder.
What’s with Piefed? Isn’t it just another Lemmy instance?
PieFed is a different software. Lemmy is written in Rust and has a certain set of features.
PieFed is a newer project, written from scratch in Python, by completely different people. It includes Lemmy’s features and shows the same posts as Lemmy, but has additional features such as polls, events, feeds (which are the same thing as multireddits on Reddit), emoji reactions, flairs, notifications for new comments coming for some specific post or new posts coming in some specific community, messaging with Mastodon users, and some other stuff that fails to come to my mind right now :)
There are several PieFed instances: https://piefed.fediverse.observer/list
Different platform/software, same protocol (ActivityPub).
Should be
TikTok -> Go outside and touch some grass.
Has anyone tried Pleroma or Misskey who can share their experience/opinion?
Just trying to get an idea of what’s out there.
Well, pleroma is kind of like a blend between 2010 imageboards and mastodon, it’s kinda small and nice depending on which instance you are. Its used by a lot of personal website thanks to its low weight, and is popular among small independant web creators. You’ll rarely see instance with more than 100 users. Biggest one i’ve found is https://udongein.xyz/ .
Misskey is more or less the same thing, but mainly focused on a japanese audience from what i’ve seen, with a flashy DUI and a large focus on user customisation with profile picture stickers, statuses, colored fonts, badges, and custom emojis. Biggest misskey instance i’ve found is misskey.io .
Both are fun, but they are more focused on communities/sharing than politics/news/real world (except misskey on some cases for… japanese reasons). Their smallness also tend to favor circlejerking behavior, but i guess that’s an inner principle of the world wide web. They are worth the try.
That’s interesting, thanks!
Both are fun, but they are more focused on communities/sharing than politics/news/real world
That’s okay, because those niches seem already filled on the fediverse anyway. I was mostly curious because it seems most of the social media formats have alternatives on the fediverse, except for the classic facebook/myspace where it was originally mostly about keeping up with friends and people you know in real life, joining interest groups, buying/selling used items on marketplace, etc.
I saw this image on Reddit.
And now I am here.
Welcome!!
