I recently had a hard time explaining to a coworker that the “Increase number of decimals” button in Excel doesn’t work if you already exported to a CSV with only a decimal of precision. It worked on their end because they had the excel file, but I had the CSV. I managed to come up with a clever and innovative solution to the problem though; I gave up and worked on something else.
Excel is pretty awful software.
10-15 years ago it was good, but it just isn’t anymore.
That’s actually pretty terrible. Can you load the csv and then save it again as an xls? Once it’s loaded, why does it care what the source format was?
the original doc has the math, the csv only has the pre-calculated numbers
you cant recover lost data by just resaving in another format lol
As soon as you convert from an .XLS file to a .CSV file, the data and sig figs used to display that data are saved while the math formulas used to calculate that data are erased.
This means that when you try to go from .CSV to .XLS, Excel doesn’t know the original formula that created the data to then be able to display more decimal points. The formula is absolutely necessary to change sig figs of displayed data.
The only other way I can think of that would allow one to change sig figs in .CSV data is if the .XLS file was converted with like the maximum number of sig figs displayed, or let’s say 10-20. Then in a .CSV, you can modify the sig figs to something less, like 0-20.
But I want to say that if you save that .CSV file after the sig fig change, where you original converted it with 10-20 sig figs but then changed them to 0-20, the .CSV overwrites the data and you lose the sig figs that you concatenated.
Result: adding decimal points in a .CSV isn’t possible.
I have a colleague making close to twice my salary struggling with IT…but he’s extremely skilled at his actual job.
Yup. The key is are they paid to save pdfs? Or are they paid to do other things?
I can save the shit out of some PDFs, but I’ve only ever made one sale in my entire life.
Are they paid to use the toilet to go to the bathroom or are they paid for other things? If they’re paid for other things, they should shit on the floor wherever they happen to be and let the janitors handle that since they’re the ones paid to clean things up.
Followed by listening to them complain about how they are struggling with money because of how much their cars are costing them. Meanwhile I can’t even afford to learn to drive and had to walk or cycle to work in the pissing rain again.
Listening to the personal financial issues of people much wealthier than you is just the worst. I hate how this can distance me from some of my friends even.
We just got a new employee at work. She is in her 60s and 100% computer illiterate. I had to give her training on how to use a mouse and how to click on bookmarks to open our shared sheets. She somehow deleted everything on one sheet the first day, but shes getting better. She doesn’t own any computers and her phone is some no name model from 12 years ago. Im kinda impressed shes made it this far.
Just going for it and fucking up over and over really is the best way to learn how to use computers… I was lucky enough to go through that as a kid/teen so the consequences were pretty meaningless.
I had such a double take reading your username
I assume 1984 reference or is this a word used elsewhere I happened to learn from the book?
ok ive never heard of it outside of the book lol
I need to start faking computer illiteracy or at least downplaying my level of literacy. Employers notice how quickly I get computer-related tasks done, but then they expect that as my norm while my coworkers are struggling to use any device without a touch screen.
The last new hire I trained was in his mid-twenties and lacked basic tech literacy outside of the iPhone. I asked him to write up a quick protocol using a template I sent him. He typed the text of the Outlook file preview into notepad and went from there. I was baffled.
Disgusting. At least use vim!
Idk if windows (dad won’t let me swap :( noooooo) supports it plus I can’t learn to do stuff when tired
Heard people need tutorials to close vim nah I’ll stay with n++
You can install nano for powershell
ill just linux when frankenstein works lol
Right? Any sane e-mail client allows you to directly open edits in your favorite text editor.
That’s the youngest I’ve heard of someone like that. My grandpa was like that and in his 90s and I still thought he should get a computer for at least banking and stuff.
She must have been in her mid 40’s when the iPhone came out, that’s young enough to be interested and learn about the tech. She must have just actively ignored it or refused out of principle or something.
Age really isn’t an excuse. My mom was in her 70s teaching her school district’s apple tech how to use apple products. And this was like 2018.
She actually sounds like a treasure. Guide her well, and learn from her what you can.
Been under a team leader long time ago. She double clicked all web page links. It was the first time I have been silent while witnessing something so outrageous.
No word of a lie, I worked in a place where HR would print the company credit card statements, load the printed sheets back into the printer scanner, and email them to each employee individually from the copier.
Lamo. That sounds so much more difficult than just…… emailing the statements off the bat. I’m impressed!
I’ve heard of something like that happening because they weren’t allowed to download pdfs from emails, but they were allow to directly send them to the printer.
Stupid brain surgeons, don’t know how to save to pdf, I should make more money than them!
If you are a surgeon but, in the year 2026, haven’t learned ‘File>Save As…’ or ‘click the little disk icon’ I doubt your competence to have learned anything else. Saving a file requires far less education and adaptability. I mean, it’s not exactly brain surgery.
Exhibit A
I had a user come to me with a PDF issue my app was generating. They kept getting the document in landscape, and wanted it on portrait. They were the only user with this issue, and it stumped me. I checked the underlying code, and everything was set to portrait mode, except the last page, which contained a sketch and was set to landscape mode.
I asked him to show me exactly what he did when he made the PDF. Instead of just downloading the provided PDF, he had his system set to open it on Adobe Reader. He would then use a PDF printer (Microsoft, or cutePDF) to save the doc. His printer was set to landscape.
And you probably don’t know how long chicken Mcnuggets need to cook in the fryer.
tell it to me at the first day and i will. the thing is if you work with pdf you better know how to use pdf format. your competence should be part of the reason why you earn more. if your boss works with a computer for more than a year and still struggles it’s not a sign of “i don’t need to know that”, but idgaf. these people never needed to climb a ladder hence they don’t know shit about the environment in which they work and slow everybody else down.
If someone needs to save pdfs on a regular basis, they remember how to do it. If not, they don’t.
By the way, isn’t it something weird where instead of using Save As, you have to go to Print, and then save as a pdf from there? Who the fuck cares
Save as>format/file type>pdf
Not an IT or computer nut (for the most part) but I thought people knew how to do this
Reminds me how much I take for granted
I will be shocked if there isnt a button with a picture of nuggets on it.
Sable sauntered into the Burger Lord. It was exactly like every other Burger Lord in America. [But not like every other Burger Lord across the world. German Burger Lords, for example, sold lager instead of root beer, while English Burger Lords managed to take any American fast food virtues (the speed with which your food was delivered, for example) and carefully remove them; your food arrived after half an hour, at room temperature, and it was only because of the strip of warm lettuce between them that you could distinguish the burger from the bun. The Burger Lord pathfinder salesmen had been shot twenty-five minutes after setting foot in France.] McLordy the Clown danced in the Kiddie Korner. The serving staff had identical gleaming smiles that never reached their eyes.[…]
Sable went up to the counter.
“Hello-my-name-is-Marie,” said the girl behind the counter. “How-can-I-help-you?”
“A double blaster thunder biggun, extra fries, hold the mustard,” he said.
“Anything-to-drink?”
“A special thick whippy chocobanana shake.”
She pressed the little pictogram squares on her till. (Literacy was no longer a requirement for employment in these restaurants. Smiling was.)
What’s this from?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Omens
Amazing book
I’ve heard of it, might read (future me will read it, dont worry)
You would be right, I can’t afford ultra processed foods. Root veg and grains for me with legumes if I am feeling fancy. Although I do have rosemary now because I pirated the plant.
Ah, have you seeded it yet?
Was more of a copy and paste
Not to mention that damn AC vent blowing right on ya
depends
are they trying to export a PDF from Microsoft Word? because Microsoft makes that difficult nowadays
Can’t you just print and choose “print to pdf” as your “printer”?
you can still do that
it’s buggier than it used to be, though
Isn’t it just alt,f,e,a?
Control-s save as>pdf is how I do but I’m not professional I’m teen
Still seeing classmates open chrome, search “google” in the search bar, click the link, just to end where they started is infuriating as fuck
Everyone here is bashing in op, but when you have to help the 50eth person who clearly doesn’t even understand the fundamentals of their job, with editing a word file even tho you already sent them the tutorial, it just gets to you. But I guess I did sign up for first level support.
I used to work at an office where all of our documents were kept electronically. A few of my coworkers couldn’t figure out how to open any file type except pdf, so whenever I added documents to the system, I’d convert anything else and add a pdf copy for them.
Another group of coworkers was infuriated by this, because they believed I was spending hours every day scanning a ton of paper documents unnecessarily, because I guess they didn’t know any other way to create a pdf?
I ended up being called into a meeting with my manager to justify why I was wasting so much time scanning documents. I explained that I wasn’t scanning anything, I was just opening files that we received in an electronic format and clicking “export to pdf”.
He was blamed me for none of the people who complained knowing how to do this. We were all administrative staff.
I hate techs that think like this. Shit i can’t do a doctor’s job, I can’t do an architects job. I don’t expect them to do mine. In fact I want then to pay me all to do my job because they can’t do it.
Fuck you. Do you job better then them and be worthy of your money
Uh… the whole point of the meme is that you are being paid less than someone who knows less and does less than you.
Exactly!
If saving a PDF is part of your job, then it’s not IT’s job.
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