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Our national neighbors to the north have already caved, setting off alarm bells in some U.S. operations, and now NADA is hoping to amplify that warning.
Fuck off you Yankee cunts. Go fuck yourself through both ears with a rusty chainsaw.
“Caved”!? You mean “are purchasing higher quality vehicles for lower prices” means “caving” these days?
Seriously. Fuck all the way off.
The car dealer lobby can go fuck themselves. How much cheaper would cars be already with no middle man using high pressure sales tactics
Not to mention the lobbying against robust transit options, and for car-centric city design. The personal automobile is marketed as freedom but in reality it is an expensive infrastructure ball & chain
Well. In Germany we say “Der Markt regelt das”. Translated: economy speaks for itself. <- Ironically spoken
Like it or Not. China made it. They will also flood Europe/EU soon. I’m not mad, when they can, they should. This is our beloved capitalism.
One German politician warned car companies that they need to make affordable EV. They didn’t listen and still don’t.
Edit: Added “<- Ironically spoken” to first sentence to make clear how I was meaning it.
The problem is China subsidizing their cars to suffocate the European manufacturers. When all the European manufactures are closed or sold to China, you’ll see the real prices.
EDIT: Also, soon? They are already here.
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China just makes better and cheaper cars.
Why wouldn’t they?
After decades of being the west’s factory they’d be stupid not to learn.
And better is just upping the QA more than their western customers (who want the cheapest possible 'cos line must go up).Better is a whole lot more than “upping the QA”. The cars here are genuinely innovative and, more importantly, the logistical and fabrication techniques are innovative.
One of the major reasons the big name Chinese EVs are cheaper than their roughly equivalent western counterparts is because the companies are vertical, not horizontal, in their supply chain.
Yes. I’m aware that they subsidize the shit out of a lot of stuff. They saw the chance and took it. Of course, I’d like to see European cars, as that also means workplaces and plus for our economy.
For a greater time we already compete a lot with Japanese and Korean cars - I mean they build good cars. But in the end it seems more fair. And for what I know is that they also do very good options on the EV market - but will hardly compete with BYD or Xiaomi vehicles.
Yes. They’re subsidizing so hard that the EVs are dirt-cheap HERE. You know, all those companies running at a loss to sell … domestically … while somehow … innovating.
Compassionate fucking Buddha this endless whining about “subsidies” gets tiresome after a while. Grow the fuck up you idiots and leave the kiddie pool.
There’s another word - mercantilism.
No, they shouldn’t, but it’ll be the same thing that US tech companies did, more or less.
I think the environment, in terms of IP and patents and running a company, should be made easier in the EU, otherwise there will be no domestic competition. Unfortunately those seem to only become stricter over time.
For China mercantilism works, because of enormous size of their own market, and pretty strong competition inside it with lax rules.
Not a fan of this sentence. Market doesn’t care about human sensitivities, not one bit.
Which one exactly?
Der Markt regelt das. No it doesn’t. Not without enforced regulation.
Absolutely. I’m sorry. I did not make clear that I meant it ironically.
Yes, it’s bad for you. Selling new cars for over 60K on average has been very good for you.
Maybe American autodealers should’ve made cheaper cars and not relied on monopoly-like status and government protections manipulating the market.
Also, maybe American’s shouldn’t have been such cunts to their neighbours. I mean, they throw a big Trump diaper at Canada and Mexico, start demanding all the car companies shut down plants and shit, wtf did they expect Canada and Mexico to do exactly?
Greed, lack of standards and sub-standard vehicles finally caught up with them.
The dealership system is garbage. Let the battle begin.
Say what you will, but I’ll take BYD over Tesla any day.
Good. No one should buy American trash.
its also overpriced, and the handles trying temulate tesla is a very big turnoff, as well as a safety issues.
It’s so few cars that it won’t make a difference.
They’re also tariffed to not offer a discount.
European fllet and personal buyers are starting to turn away from US cars. Not impressively, but a little.
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This means American automakers will learn their lesson and focus on quality, consumer focused products. Right? Right?!
Narrator: They did not. The enshitification continued. Regulations barring imports were passed and Americans paid for it with their lives and livelihoods.
Ahahahaha fuck you USA. 🖕🖕🖕
They can cry about it, I also don’t think it will upend socity as quick as they imagine
