Suggesting US tech is as risky as Chinese tech is ‘a giant false equivalency,’ top US cyber official says.
Yeah it is much more risky. China hasn’t used it’s tech to affect policy in the EU so far while the US has.
Yeah it is much more risky. China hasn’t used it’s tech to affect policy in the EU so far while the US has.
Wouldn’t be so sure about that, tbh. China may not sanction ICC judges and freeze their mail accounts, but Tiktok and its algorithms are controlled by China. IIRC, they have been proven to manipulate that algorithm in the past to restrict the reach of (positive) queer and disabled content, for example, so I would absolutely not surprised if they manipulated the reach of political content before elections etc.
The us directly and openly tried affecting policies by blackmailing the ICC (if you don’t do x for us, we will do y to you). That is not the same as asserting influence. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but your argument doesn’t counter the point that dependency on US Tech is (right now) more risky than dependency on Chinese Tech.
Honestly, I find the chinese way much more dangerous because it’s much harder to detect. It’s soft power versus brute force.
I agree with that, if i had to pick who of those two is a bigger threat to the EU overall i wouldn’t really know.
I would argue we don’t need to pick or rank. We need to acknowledge that both (and Russia) are a threat to european independence and european democracy, and we need to act accordingly.
I would argue we don’t need to pick or rank.
It’s not really relevant anyway, apples and oranges i suppose. You’re right - we need to understand the threat and respond to it. The articles narrative that we only have two options (be dependent on either Chinese or US tech) is false.
Glad we can agree.
The articles narrative that we only have two options (be dependent on either Chinese or US tech) is false.
That is an Axel Springer medium for you. Leaving out facts, twisting the meaning of details. If I had anything to decide, outlets owned by that publisher would be added to the list of banned media in this comm.
True, but so are Facebook, Instagram and Twitter.
So? Nobody questioned that.
There were several court cases about Facebook meddling in foreign elections. This further proves that us tech is more dangerous.
When two platforms are doing the exact same thing, how can one be worse than the other?
But they aren’t doing the exactly same thing. Even if we assume TikTok algorithm has been tampered with to restrict people. Facebook is directly responsible for deaths .
This is about Social Media that present a threat to european independence, not myanmar. Don’t move the goalposts.
Do you have any sources for that? I don’t doubt it, I’m just curious.
Interesting, I would have thought that they would go against LGBT+ more, but maybe that hasn’t been leaked yet.
You gotta keep in mind that Tiktok is not accessible in China. And I don’t have a clue how these topics are handled on Douyin.
Tiktok is now US-owned, and under the control of Larry Ellison.
Only the TikTok for US citizens is now US owned (or 80%), the regular TikTok (that is inaccessible from China) is still Chinese.
Only in the US. Everywhere else it’s still Bytedance.
Yeah, China relies on more soft power so actually US is more risky
Keep. Your. Fucking. Axel-Springer-Shit. To. Your. Fucking. Self.
Right Wing Axel Springer politics being friendly with fascist USA. Great post /s
Even IF it is true that US stack is more secure than a chinese stack… the latter isn’t running on millions of european computers, it’s not chinese social media, chinese search engines, chinese email providers, chinese services that dominate the european internet experience.
We don’t need more independence from China as urgently as we need independence from the US, because we don’t rely on chinese tech as much.
Fuck Politico and Axel Springer, the entire Article is just misdirection away from the point.
“Personal data doesn’t get piped to the state in the United States,” he said, referencing concerns that the Beijing government has laws requiring firms to hand over data for Chinese surveillance and espionage purposes.
So, have we forgotten about Edward Snowden’s discoveries?
I’m pretty sure thats pretty exactly what the partiot act is all about, innit?
Iirc Microslop officially stated that they “can not deny data is flowing home”. And thats just the offical answer of one company…
Yeah first you push us away, insult us, try to coerce us to give you greenland, tarrif us for non-sensical reasons, say our civilazations are being erased due to migration, say we don’t have freedom of speech. You also tell us to become independent militarily and start talking with Russia as if they were friends. Then you’re confused when we try to become independent. Big fucking cinema, who would’ve thought
And the news are… ? That’s business as usual.
And fuck Politico and AS.
there really should be a ban on posting Politico here.
https://ground.news/interest/politico-europe
Since it is highly factual, I would not see why.
