I’d argue that the system is designed or at least indifferent to a majority being uninterested in the politics that influences their daily life.
When you get to vote every 4 years on all topics at once while the choice you make is afterwards still influenced by corruption, coalition an lobbying that doesn’t further interest into politics at all.
Imho: Let’s abandon representatives with fixed legislation periods all together and either elect officials only if they can be removed by public vote at any time or skip the corrupt representatives completely and let the public vote on any matter individually. This way ones choice has an actual impact an people have motivation to actually get informed on specific matters.
One might suggest a democracy of action/labor, where you do the things you feel like matter in the world in the ways you feel are best. ‘If you care, do the work’ in a broad sense.
It raises issues of ableism that need to be worked out, but its not like amy current systems dont fuck people, still encourages ambition, and makes things like amassing power more difficult.
I’d argue that the system is designed or at least indifferent to a majority being uninterested in the politics that influences their daily life.
I would concur and that it’s deliberately built into the system that people think politics is something that can be isolated/compartmentalised and not thought about at all, if so desired.
To enfranchise the electorate, education has to begin early on that politics is the power dynamic in every single relationship, including those individuals have with each other, systems such as government, and inanimate objects such as money, food, sex, etc.
Some people are good rulers. Some are really bad. With the fucked up system we have, we tend to get the bad rulers because they crave power. The good leaders don’t and won’t make it as far, as the competition is willing to do whatever is needed to gain power. That’s why this system needs to go. If we want a system with leaders, we need to hold them accountable for lies, corruption, mistakes, etc. A leader should need to pass tests of intelligence and clean a clean past. But most importantly, a psychological test.
But since bad people will always play dirty to gain power, it’s best to ditch the entire system and leaders all together.
I like Asimov’s (or maybe Heinlein’s) thought on the matter.
Anyone who wants to be a public official should be disqualified from office. Officials should be dragged in kicking and screaming and only be allowed to leave when they’ve done a good job.
I always thought of it as more of an efficiency thing. Perhaps a bad analogy, but let’s say I have a few hundred photos I took on vacation. Yes, I could store them all together in a single batch. However, grouping them with some kind of predetermined taxonomy can help make sense of things through the noise. In a similar fashion, elected officials, imperfect though they may be, consolidate the voices of many into the voices of a few. At a certain scale and across certain distances it does make sense.
I think it was somewhere here in Lemmy, but I saw a proposal of randomized government appointments akin to jury duty which I found quite fun. Good way to make sure the populace is smart because any of them may be called up.
Aah the misconception about democracy.
People think that democracy is fantastic, just vote for what you want and it will be given.
Nothing is further from the truth.
Democracy has one and only one specificity that puts them over the others, it’s that you can kick a bad leader out (without bloodshed).
That’s it!
Now before our american friends tells me I’m wrong, you have to have a functional democracy, which you don’t.
Personally it’s literally the only thing that, IMO, is missing from anarchism (are there anarchist systems with strict voting rules?). But that’s just my personal view of course.
Thats not democracy. Democracy is rule by the people.
You mean ‘electoral representative democracy’ which you describe accurately. Other kinds do exist.
Not that any of thrm are allowed or americans believe they exist.
We should go back to sortition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition
But what if someone with bad intentions gets choosen?
One person does not make decisions, that one person would need to convince everybody else who got selected.
Power struggles are destructive. The purpose of a representatve democracy is to change leaders without damaging the infrastructure necessary to generate wealth. This guy made a good video about it.
If democracies work, why are they against humanity?
Using Norway, Sweden and Denmark as deem for supporting the Knesset raid upon palestinians.
Oh no a tankie, no wonder you don’t like democracy.
Blocked.
not a tankie
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I have a solution to this, but you probably dont want to hear it.
You are in an anarchist community, you are allowed to voice radical opinions.
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So a world where, lets say, anarchist, liberal and fascist “clans” coexist peacefully, freedom of movement is guaranteed and supported by all those clans and information regarding all existing clans are available freely so people can make informed decisions?
4·7 months agoWhile not quite exactly, the situation you’re describing isn’t too far off from some of the ways people have lived historically. I 10/10 recommend reading The Dawn of Everything if you’re interested. Some of that research really changed my thoughts about what is possible.
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Because a large part of many of these practices is the exclusion of all others. Thanks for sharing, though!
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They do not want to coexist. The existence of an ‘other’ is a threat/attack to them.
Read nazi philosopher carl schmitt or fiction novel ‘blindsight’.
That was not my intention, instead I tried to repeat your idea in my own words to make sure I actually understand. Also I intentionally added kinda opposing factions and the concept “freedom of movement” to my question to make the idea more clear to me and others.
Also your idea reminds a little of the “World where many worlds fit” idea that comes from (or I have first learned of when reading) zapatista texts.
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clearly we need a hot goth robot mommy to enact robot rule over all life
We need a ruler because humans are too stupid to rule themselves
Looks inside
The ruler is also a human
I think many electoralists are motivated by capitalism, and that’s why they hate the idea of us ruling ourselves. That’s why they’d rather us play their rigged game electing a capitalist of their choosing.
