Quick reminder that starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn’t registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID: https://www.theregister.com/software/2025/10/29/keep-android-open-movement-fights-google-dev-requirement/1470903
Addition:
Several of these OSes, including Sailfish, FuriOS, Mobian, and postmarketOS are all pure Linux OSs. They’re not derived from Android, but they can all run an Android VM or container, and so allow you to install and use Android apps.
But will it run my banking app?
For SailfishOS(Jolla) you can check here: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/18438
I use Graphene OS and my bank’s app works fine.
Not just banking, but also other apps like government login apps such as the Danish MitID or dutch DigiD. I doubt those work :/
I’m curious why Fairphone is not mentioned?
Also if you’re in Canada, this site ships internationally
https://www.clove.co.uk/collections/smartphones-fairphone/products/fairphone-gen-6
In-case this helps anyone else, the dimensions of these phones:
spoiler
https://murena.com/shop/smartphones/brand-new/murena-fairphone-6/ Dimensions (HxWxD) 156.5× 73.3× 9.6mm
https://www.punkt.ch/products/mc02-5g-secure-phone Dimensions: 165.9 x 77.8 x 10.9mm
https://volla.online/en/volla-phone-quintus/ Device dimensions 164.15 x 74.7 x 8.75 mm
https://volla.online/en/volla-phone-plinius/ Dimenstions 163 mm x 76 mm x 10.5 mm
https://volla.online/en/volla-phone-x23/ Device dimensions 160.9 x 80 mm x 12.2 mm
https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-sep-ii-2026 Dimensions: ~158 x 74 x 9mm, est. 190g
https://furilabs.com/ Dimensions 170mm x 76mm x 8mm / 291g
https://puri.sm/products/liberty-phone/ Dimensions (W×H×T): 74×152×15 mm
https://pine64.org/devices/pinephone_pro/ Dimensions 160.8 x 76.6 x 11.1mm
https://store.fxtec.com/pro1/#specification Dimensions: 154 x 73.6 x 13.98 mm
I wish there were a small phone :(
That’s a nice set of devices. For a person not interested in degoogled Androids, since it would be Android anyway, what would be the best mobile OS for regular use? Ubuntu touch? Sailfish?
Some key aspects are stability, ease of use, quantity, and quality of the app ecosystem and community.
Crazy that no one mentioned the trump phone \s
They said “Non-Apple, non-Google,” not “non-existent.”
https://mas.to/@Techaltar/116579102714426735 apparently they will start shipping soon
They’re moving from any month to any week now!
I don’t think we should keep putting pine phones on these lists. They are far from consumer grade and are basically just toys for linux nerds.
- Affordable
- usable
- no Android
Sadly we can only choose 2 of 3 :(
Jolla ticks two boxes, interesting to see how usable it is when they start delivering
Well their previous phones have been usable, but barely apparently. Every discussion with users, it is just riddled with bugs and doesn’t function as a phone often times. Though cheaper Samsung’s often also don’t function as a phone either I guess.
I thought about getting one for a while until a lot of users said they have to carry a second phone also, which defeats the purpose for me.
Like N9 back in the days. I hope I won’t need to carry two phones and I’m ready to cut off apps if they don’t work, but there’s no excuse if phone calls don’t function.
I think every phone of the above ticks two boxes, getting all 3 is the problem :/
I mean I can afford non of the phones.
I wonder why they didn’t mention Fairphone. There are a few others worth getting an honourable mention too.
GrapheneOS - Partner with Motorola, although the first Graphene phone may not be until early 2027
Operating Systems (as are both above) that can be installed to a list of devices that can be purchased today. Nothing really new here, I just thought it might be nice to have a longer list of devices all in the one place.
CalyxOS (Discontinued?)
Shiftphone also has the ShiftOS L OS which is de-googled. It also has an official /e/os build and the bootloader can be easily unlocked.
I tried PostmarketOS. Its fine. But with no audio on the speaker and really slow WiFi speed it is not usable. Hardware: Fairphone 4
