If you’re always on the defence, you are losing long term.
Voting might stop a problem from getting worse, but it’s not a viable solution to fix the underlying issues that require real systemic change to occur and that cannot happen from inside the system.
So vote, do all you can to stop it from getting worse. But remember that to fix it you need to fight for a revolution.
You can fight to install progressives at the local level while voting defensively at the national level. Local progressive movement are not only a LOT easier to pull off, but will help create widespread acceptance of progressive ideals as they get good outcomes. Then you expand to the state level and house, then the senate, then you’re well positioned to push for a progressive in the presidency.
See: Zohran Mandani, Katie Wilson…
Next could be Nithya Raman?
These are good examples of what it takes, however, including primary participation and grassroots activism. In addition, the NYC mayoral featured ranked choice voting.
In other words, Duverger’s Law can’t simply be ignored in FPTP systems like those of the US, and anyone who suggests otherwise (like saying you should vote non-strategically to defeat the MAGA opposition) is either terribly ill-informed or, more likely, is working for the opposition.
duverger’s “law” is literally a tautology and has no predictive power at all
duverger’s “law”
The name is a historical artifact of his 1950s phrasing. It’s a tendency theorem with scope conditions.
literally a tautology
Cox, Riker, Lijphart, and Clark+Golder have all reformulated the law as a conditional strategic-equilibrium claim.
that’s a lot of ink spilled for “literally a tautology”
Or, hear me out, you just let people vote for progressives if they want and don’t blame them for dems losing. Maybe look at why people stopped voting after Obama? Maybe he happy that people vote at all because it allows more votes for progressives/dems in the local level, even if it doesn’t help at the national level? Cuz dems have a lot of issues, not just leftists “not” voting for them. (sure, some don’t but iirc they’re actually the highest % dem voting block, even if they are much smaller in population. )
I’m not blaming them for dems losing, and they can vote however they want, I’m not stopping them. This isn’t about how you can and can’t vote, it’s about how to make your vote work to prevent situations like we’re in right now, while also pushing for longer-term outcomes, and we can all have - and share - our opinions on how to do that.
Personally, I think it’s counter-productive to refuse to actively vote to prevent our current situation in the name of ideals or whatever else. It’s going to take years if not decades to fix the damage being done right now, in all likelihood. But you’re welcome to have your own opinion on that matter.
if that sort of voting prevented this situation at all we wouldn’t be here?
Do you think supporting the lesser evil magically makes the two parties put forward BETTER candidates? All that shit does is lead to parties racing to the bottom, voters getting fucking tired of it and either stop voting, or look at trump and go “at least he isn’t a politician he’ll do something different” and vote for him. Dems refuse to do shit about it but run shit after shit after shit. When they had huge turnout for Obama’s message of “change” and now their message with biden is “nothing will fundamentally change” which… cool. Great. Way to energize your voters. “Not trump” isn’t enough. and until the DNC learns that, they can fuck themselves as they aren’t improving or preventing shit. I’ll always vote, but I’m voting for candidates that are the most worthy of a fucking vote.
if that sort of voting prevented this situation at all we wouldn’t be here?
Is your stance that Harris would have been doing the same shit Trump is doing, had she been elected instead? That it wouldn’t have been any better? If that’s what you’re positing… I strongly disagree, and I really don’t know how you can even start to back that claim up.
Regardless, vote how you want. I’ve had this conversation with enough people with your exact stance to know that there’s nothing I can say to change your mind and there’s nothing you’re going to say to change mine, so continue doing you and I’ll continue doing me.
No, you’ve said voting defensively prevents exactly what is happening. As if people don’t vote defensively. As if we are not here.
Harris being run is WHY we are here. The DNC thinking they can get away with being antidemocratic (attacking third parties, suing to get them off the ballot, don’t get me started on the “victory fund” bullshit) is WHY WE ARE HERE. It’s on them. The DNC has fucked itself since after Obama. That’s why so many normal ass people haven’t voted since Obama. I’m not talking super principled leftists. I’m talking normie shit. They don’t vote anymore because it’s fucking garbage. Because even if the DNC won they wouldn’t do anything of substance to help. Half of what happened in Palestine was in collab WITH Biden, planned by him and passed on to Trump. Maybe it would’ve been slower. Draw out the suffering more, but it wouldn’t have been changed for the better, which is the problem. Better than the worst imaginable isn’t good enough for people.
What I said was that voting defensively makes your vote work towards preventing this sort of thing, whereas voting third party does not. Protest votes, ballot spoilage, 3rd party votes and similar actions make a statement, but so does voting for progressives down ballot.
To put it succinctly, people voting 3rd party didn’t cause the current situation, but they did nothing to prevent or obstruct the current situation, either.
She said she’d do the exact same amount of genocide in Gaza. She would absolutely let Israel start a war with Iran.
This is true, but it’s also important to be aware that if all americans ever do is vote then things will never improve. It’s important to vote still, but it can’t end there
Yeah, but also, things would get better faster if we only focused on getting more people to THAN IT WOULD if we only focused trying to get people who dont take other actions to do so.
Yeah, people seem to forget history. Often institutions become so sclerotic that the only way forward is to work outside of them. Look what it took to defeat slavery in the US. Slaveholders had co-opted both major parties. Abolitionists tried for decades to work within the existing two party system, voting “lesser evil” election after election. In the end, this strategy failed at ending slavery. It took the founding of a new party, the Republican Party, to really make progress on abolition. It ended up leading to the Civil War, but slavery would have continued for another generation at least if abolitionists had just kept voting defensively election after election.
“John Brown’s body lies a-mouldering in the grave.”
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Hence the crabby letters and the protests. Right now in the US, there are a lot of issues that are popular, and Democratic candidates can be pressured into movement on those issues. Republican candidates have to obey Dear Leader or face getting primaried by the propaganda machine, hence billion-dollar ballrooms and no accountability for the $1.776 billion slushfund.
…or the inadvisable elective war on Iran.
If Americans were more literate about their elections (which is a prerequisite for democracy to work) then we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Democratic candidates can be pressured into movement on those issues.
Why didn’t they do so thrice when they were in power?
You’re going to be able to find instances where it doesn’t fully work, where positions don’t evolve. Obama era Democrats were mostly neoliberal, which factored into why Trump was able to take power.
But that shouldn’t stop you from voting against the guy who is going to do more damage.
Voting is the least an activist might do.
Leave your electoral apologia out the /c/: Your votes all amounted to empowering Nazis back into power. You refuse to directly act, because it’s inconvenient to your positions.
Voting is exactly how the electoral college elected them 5 times. Thrice against you, twice for you.
That’s the problem. More people voted for Biden than voted for Harris or Clinton. Democrats were unmotivated to stop Trump from winning, and in all three elections, he was a greater threat no matter who was running against him.
I don’t like the EC either. In fact, no-one other than the far right likes the EC.
I don’t like the EC either. In fact, no-one other than the far right likes the EC.
Then directly demolish it. Ensure it never exist.
Blue Nazis are still Nazis.That’s not a power I personally have, though there have been two attempts to amend the Constitution to eliminate it, and currently there is the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which is only a couple of states away from having legal force.
The worst of Democrats, establishment Democrats who focus on serving their donors are not fascist. They’re neoliberal, and granted, neoliberalism makes states vulnerable to fascist movements (a problem faced in the EU, Australia and Canada as well as the US) but that doesn’t actually make them fascist.
Democratic candidates can be pressured into movement on those issues.
No, they literally can’t. Kamala chose to lose rather than change the dems stance on Israel. They chose genocide over winning.
In Australia, you can vote for whoever you want first, and then you just have to make sure to put the better big party before the worst big party.
In America, your voting system is fucked, so you only get three options: Democrat, Republican, no preference. Abstaining is no preference. Abstaining and saying you want to burn down the system, is still no preference. You gotta make a good choice with your vote, so you can move on to making change on the ground with your hands and your feet and your voice. If you spend all day at your keyboard talking about how abstinence actually means whatever you want it to mean, then you’re not making change, you’re just getting mad.
Abstaining is actually voting Republican, because of the voter demographics wherein Republicans have a dedicated chunk of zealots who will vote 100% of the time, and the Democrats having no such thing
If you’re a republican, abstaining is voting democrat.
Yes, OP’s point is also that generally speaking Republicans are less likely to abstain.
It’s not though. The fewer people vote, the more likely it is for Republicans to win
Not in the same way that the inverse is true, no
Mathematically it’s the exact same situation but flipped.
This isn’t pure math, it’s electoral politics.
Because the third parties in question this time (and most times) were spoiler candidates for the Democrats, a Republican abstaining does not necessarily mean +1 for Dems
Also voting 3rd party is voting Republican because it’s akin to abstaining. All those Jill Stein voters are basically Maga.
Libertarianism is societal cancer and those Stein voters would have supported Trump over Harris anyway since the MAGA GOP is basically a Libertarian system (the fuck you got mine Government) at its core.
You’re not wrong, however, Stein was Green Party not libertarian.
You’re thinking of Gary “what is Aleppo” Johnson
Both were spoiler candidates
Thanks for the correction.
And god the fucking Green Party. Inswear those jokers exist only to make Socialists looklike wackjobs.
I agree.
Every dumbass voting this down is EXACTLY why we have Dumbass as president.
… don’t you think a lot of Trump votes were defensive votes against Hilary/Harris? Telling people to vote against the worse candidate is morbid and devoid of hope.
Elections should be restructured so people aren’t forced into 1-on-1 battles. People naturally have more diverse beliefs than a left/right spectrum. The current system was gamed into crisis. Time for an amendment
A MAGA Idiot voting for Trump “defensively” against 5 Trans Athletes and non existent people eating cats and dogs un Ohio, are not voting defensivrly, they are stupid and voting stupidly because god for they actually not accept blatant and obvious lies.
Voting “defensively for trump” is like setting your house on fire… defensively!
Your Americentrism is repugnant. Please keep it in your country.
Pretty sure America is the most obvious place this would be referencing.
It has to be a FPTP country, and it has to be a country with so few possible parties that the choices are bad or worse. Not to mention it has to be a country with free and fair elections.
How many countries fit that bill?
Elections in the US are far removed from free and fair, especially now we’re past Louisiana v. Callais and SCOTUS can and will veto any efforts by Congress to reform them.
Scroll up. You’re scaring the Aussies, Bri’ish, & Deutsche in this /c/.
Finding @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone was talking about omnium California midterms took a secondary retort to press.
free and fair elections.
Ahistorical take, or rhetorical?
Aren’t you Butch Ware, the Green Party vice presidential nominee and candidate for governor of California, and therefore an American?
Elsewhere in this thread, Gormadt told you to run for office. You said “I did”, and linked to a news story about Butch Ware messing up the paperwork to run for California governor. So it seemed like you were saying you’re Butch Ware, an American.
Lol wait is this actually Butch Ware? No shot…
It’s an outrageous claim, but I am not in the habit of disagreeing with people about who they are. Though I may see fit to question perceived inconsistencies.
I am too tired at the moment to really talk, but here are the systems we need to no longer need defensive voting.
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You can do this as long as your are also working to build alternative (worker’s) political parties. If you are only voting defensively you are going to lose everything eventually. There is nothing wrong with defensive voting from a moral standpoint but it is a defeatist strategy. You must build something better in the meantime
Based AF
EDIT: Perhaps I should clarify my view a bit. Any vote preventing the worst candidate from taking office is a good one. Especially in our First-Past-the-Post system.
Thsts some “vote blue no matter who” bs. We have not forgotten genocide joe
Actually it’s “primary out the do-nothing democrats when progressive candidates are on the ballot and vote for the lesser of two evils if there’s no viable progressive candidate.” Also, if you want better candidates then help progressive candidates campaign as early as you learn about them. That could mean volunteering and door knocking, donating, or just spreading the word about them. Do what you’re able to do as enthusiastically as you can
when progressive candidates are on the ballot
Bull. Your government forbade progressives from participation. Fix your exclusivities!
Why is it everyone else’s fault that you missed a filing deadline? You sound like a fucking child.
Is this how you treat voters? Infantilizing their demands?
There have been a lot of progressive wins and upcoming wins in the past year or so. You’ve got Zohran Mamdani for mayor in Nyc. Dr. Adam Hamawy won the dem primary for New Jersey House rep. In Michigan, Abdul El-Sayed is polling very well and is very hopeful to win the Senate seat when the actual vote happens. Mamdani’s campaign has made it very clear nationally to many folks who were generally centrist or vote blue no matter who types that better candidates are out there. And that motion is continuing with campaigns like Dr. Adam Hamawy and Abdul El-Sayed’s and many others across the country. There is a progressive movement in the USA and this is the perfect time to make real change happen. Will it be easy? No. Is the system working against them? Yes. But we are still making change happen despite the obstacles. Celebrate the victories you get and then work towards the next one instead of giving up bc of one or two losses
Also, I’m getting really sick of people who aren’t from the USA spreading doomerism about the USA and saying shit can’t be fixed, and some of them even saying we need a violent revolution (not saying you’re saying that part). First of all, the USA isn’t the only place that’s fucked. Lots of countries have conservative movements that are getting out of control. I know the USA is a global superpower, but also, focus on fixing your own damn countries bc we’re focused on fixing ours and your doomer commentary doesn’t help! Second, a lot of people only hear the worst shit about the USA. They don’t hear about the wins and the progress so they just say we’re fucked without looking at the whole picture. Are things bad? Yes, but there’s real hope and change happening too
Is the system working against them? Yes.
Stop spreading this blatant lie.
Your
empire is still deathcamping people in your country and abroad.Celebrate the victories
What victories‽ It’s illegal to teach real liberation! Your contry has genocide revolution thrice!
your doomer commentary doesn’t help! saying we need a violent revolution (not saying you’re saying that part)
No Electoralist. I am saying your ballots are concessions, not political action. You can write a will, but it will never mean people will follow it. You’ve had 60 elections that amounted to naught.
And as a result, you now have Trump, who is far more eager to wipe out Palestine and turn it into a beach-front resort for billionaires.
Now things are worse, and people failing to vote against the more monstrous candidate factors into why.
Thats something that sounds intelligent to people who dont know history
What specific history are you referring to that I allegedly don’t know?
It’s hilarious how the same people who constantly harp on about “blue no matter who”, putting the phrase into peoples’ mouths despite not knowing a single thing about them, are now turning around and using the same exact phrase to try to get people to ignore the Nazi tattoos and vote for Platner.
Just an interesting thing I picked up on
“Blue no matter who” gets more done in a single year than “both sides are the same” ever will
Best i can do is hand the election to the worst option by abstaining to vote because there is no perfect option.
Do you mean no good option?
For the purpose of my comment the distinction is irrelevant.
I spose.
I refuse to continue the “lesser evil” BS that got us here. Either the Dems put up actual progressives (and not the crap like Biden that people like to praise as “the most progressive president”) or don’t whine when people like me look elsewhere at the ballot box. Third party candidates actually do the legwork in red states to get votes unlike Dem presidential candidates.
Congratulations on sticking to your purity test and voting third party. Look at all the third party members in Congress and the white house… Oh wait.
Keep blaming voters for the system’s problems. That always works.
Considering, again, I live in a deep red state my vote for anyone outside conservatives matters about the same. So I might as well stick with who I actually want representing me and not just representing who I slightly less prefer murdering.
You know, in 2024 there was some talk about whether to dispute the results of the election. But people saw that you’d chosen to let Trump win the popular vote, so they figured you wanted Trump to win, and they didn’t bother to demand a recount.
Even if everyone who voted third party voted for Harris, she still wouldn’t have won the popular vote, and that’s assuming all of them would have voted Harris and not Trump if forced like beyond at gunpoint (somehow like they can’t even pick to just be shot) which is extremely unlikely.
If everyone who voted for Biden had voted for Harris, she would have won the popular vote. In 2024, there were more abstainers like you.
Who said I abstained? I literally said I voted third party and was discussing third party voters. Why are you now needing to include people who don’t vote at all? I voted third party in 2020 also so it’s not like the Dems lost my vote between those years.
In FPTP, voting for a third party – even when it’s some major figure like Ross Perot or Bull Moose Teddy Roosevelt – is doing the same as abstaining.
By voting defensively we can control the damage. But we’re obligated to do more than just vote.
Ignore the ivory towers atop which the officials sit. Cleanly above your protests, so that they might see the horizon beyond your squabbling. Had the people consumed the choices, and rebuked the officials, maybe they would not have to choose between marauders and raiders.
Remember when people tried to say Hillary was just as corrupt? Now it’s Kamala sat atop her ivory tower and is a marauder and/or a raider. They’re just as bad as Trump. It’s equal.
Don’t vote, destroy your system from the outside. Let Trump win, let it burn.
That is this guys message. And as cute this idea is when you’re 16 or whatever, once reality hits it’s not what you’re describing.
Destroying, decaying and damaging a system hurts the lowest rung first and the highest rung, never.
Voting does make change. It doesn’t when every election bozos like you try to dissuade more people from voting.
You enjoy your preaching? My message is the same as everyone else’s here. Voting isn’t enough. A choice between two corporate representatives, one rabid and the other cleanly presented, is not a fucken choice. You don’t have to like it but every system gets gamed and eventually the people oppressed by that system must destroy it in order to gain a better quality of life. The writing is on the wall, everything is going down but the stock market. Wake up.
Lol, accusing someone of preaching after you yourself basically posted a mini sermon as a comment
You’re literally preaching you bonehead.
Your message is not the same as everyone here.
Voting works. The problem is people like you.
If not voting was a candidate it’d win every election in a landslide. Dopes like you create an ouroboros of self confirmation, a self fulfilling prophecy. Voting doesn’t work, so why vote and now that people don’t vote, voting doesn’t work. So why vote?
It’s a crap message stemming from a misunderstanding of the problem of our system. People have to buy into it. It’s “cool” not to buy into it.
“If NoT VoTiNg WaS…” Bitch I voted. Every fucken time, and these monsters continued to tear the world apart, destroy anything I ever built, and say fuck you I got mine. I HAVE BEEN VOTING THIS ENTIRE TIME AND SHIT IS STILL BEINF CONSOLIDATED AT LIGHT SPEED. TRUMP STILL HAPPENED. THE NEXT TIME SOMEONE SAYS JUST VOTE HARDER IM GONNA THROW UP. Voting is the peaceful alternative, but ask the fucking miners at Blair Mountain how well voting worked for them compares to praxis. You sound ignorant as fuck. Every right we ever had came from the people getting fed up their blood was being spilled, their dead filling the cemeteries for the pockets of oligarchs. Fuck off with this “people like you” bullshit. I’ve been here and its not FUCKING working.
Your first message was accusing me of preaching and now you type like you’re raging and being a little asshole.
You’re stupid, your opinion is dumb and ill informed. Bye
Go read your first message to me, sweetheart. You grandstanded saying I wanted Trump to win. Dont act like I responded to your posted comment. It was the other way around.
Because in reality that is what people like you are pushing even if you don’t realize it.
Who else is in the ivory tower besides Trump? Biden? Obama? Clinton? Kamala? Bernie? Who the fuck are you talking about? It’s nonsense, when reality collides with your ideals you realize how fuckin stupid it is. You literally accused all of those people of being in an ivory tower and acting as raiders. Those are your words.
We do not yet know what it takes to organize the people to seize power from the ownership class. It’s a race we’re falling behind with every hour as the far-right propaganda engine that dominates social media and televised news is able to better draw people in and tell them what to think.
Eventually, there will enough of us dead, and enough of us discontent and set on revenge that we’re willing to fight just because we have nothing left to lose. But American history has shown that we can also have incremental revolutions, usually steps of reform in response to hardship driven by inequity.
It never happens this way.
Once group A “seizes the power from the ownership class” THEY BECOME THE OWNERSHIP CLASS.
This is history, this is how it works. It’s very foolish to believe what you see on TV or what you’re told when reality has never gone that way ever not once.
Voting has positively impacted the world, democracy has moved mountains.
This kind of post isn’t helpful. It’s useless finger wagging at this point that isn’t actually going to substantively change things and it does nothing to challenge Democratic ineffectiveness.
Is the Democratic party better than the Republicans? Sure. But during the whole time Biden was in office that didn’t stop my rights from eroding in the state I live in and the current Democratic status quo is to claim that standing for some civil rights is a problem. I won’t say some things didn’t get better but an improving economy didn’t help with the cost of living for those of us who actually have to live in THIS economy.
The general argument though, is that if you vote for the lesser of two evils, therefore you’re picking the opponent that you feel you are most likely going to nudge on the issues. The DNC ran a postmortem, claimed that they were going to be open and honest about the results, then hid the results when it contradicted their pro-Israel stance.
Nevermind that our leaders are fighting corruption and fascism with strongly worded letters, while the establishment is engaged in actively trying to destroy any momentum from their left while they seek out this mythical centrist Republican that’ll vote for them. Am I supposed to feel okay with a party who’s establishment thinks my rights are optional? Are brown people supposed to feel safe when out government is engaged in active ethnic cleansing and the opposition is dog whistling about how much they love strong borders? Are people of middle eastern descent supposed to feel okay when the opposition party supports a genocide?
Are we supposed to be convinced that a political party is willing to pay attention to protests and act on them, when they can’t even be bothered to be transparent about and learn from a postmortem that told them actual fucking genocide is a line in the sand that enough people are unwilling to cross that it’d cost them one of the most consequential fucking elections of century?!
Voting blue is a tool, but how is doing it no matter who going to be meaningful when the Democrats won’t learn from their mistakes, will double down on their harms, will throw their own candidates under the bus for being too far left, and will continuously shift rightward?
I’m all for not letting the perfect get in the way of the good, and I have absolutely followed through on the “picking your opponent” mindset, but you actually have to have good on the board.
Push for systemic change and fight the Democratic establishment 364 days a year.
It doesn’t feel that the Democrats will actually listen much anymore, we’re shouting we’re drowning at the top of our lungs everyday and they’re like “Thoughts and prayers with a pride flag.”
There are more progressive candidates now than before, and some of them are getting into office. Pledging not to take AIPAC money is now such a thing that AIPAC is creating anonymous subsidiaries with which to donate to their opponents.
Yes, much of the Democratic party is still captured by corporations. The DNC and DCCC are still operating against Democratic Socialist candidates, but that also shows that the corporatist establishment regards the internal movement as a legitimate threat.
Also the Democratic party as a general rule still believes there should be checks and balances, and rule of law (whether or not they fully respect them at all times). The Republican party believes they should move fast and break things, and disregard laws and courts so long as they can do so without consequences.
There is a difference between the enemies you can vote for, and right now we’re experiencing the consequences of too many voters failing to show up at the polls.
Best way to fix that is by showing you’re willing to vote.
Being willing to vote against Republicans isn’t the same as being willing to vote for Democrats though.
When those of us voted and still got fucked over, what is left? The Dems do not care to change or challenge the Republicans because it might mean their own kickbacks get cut.
Y’all are yelling at everyone to vote, but then what? Is it just going to be more of the same slow march to fascism that the Dems were all too happy to help speed along?
People came out and protested at Harris, like what is suggested in the meme, and she told them to shut up.
Writing in “anyone else” is still voting. I’m not saying that you should show you’re willing to vote for anyone with a D next to their name, I’m saying you should show you’re willing to vote at all. Not every non voter shares your opinion, some just don’t care.
See I like talking voting with people like you. I’m on the side of voting is worth doing, but I’m not fine with anyone saying “You either support my party or you might as well have not voted” like OP tells people. That’s reductionist, something they seem to hate people who dislike the major parties doing.
In general for me it’s
Harm reduction vote (D) > voting 3rd party > not voting > voting for nazis ®
I get it’s frustrating to see all this fucking shit happen because because people just didn’t want to vote for some tiny reason (it’s almost like getting the approval of ~180M people is hard).
But I also recognize that moving something back left is important. Showing that there are people who literally get off their ass to vote that are willing to vote for someome further left is more helpful than not voting.
there is always a reason to vote
Don’t let .ml see this.
They were yelling at me to not vote Platner, to start a single man revolution.
I’m ready for one, I hate our system, the democratic establishment is aiding fascism as much as the terrorist republicans. But not voting for the guy advocating for policy to help working class people, that calls out both democrats and republicans, that both parties are spending against…
That’s just shooting ourselves in the foot at that point. People will die if a republican wins. Healthcare will be pulled back further. Etc etc.
You would think the people yelling at you to read theory would understand it themselves.
From Marx: dialectical thinking, I can work with 3rd party advocacy while recognizing the material and concrete situations as the exist currently and make strategic decisions.
From Lenin: being a single individual starting a revolution would do nothing buy get myself killed and harm the building of a revolution. The first person who dies would not be a billionaire in such an ill conceived violent revolution without mass support and parallel alternative systems to capitalism to support revolutionaries.
This image I’ve been resonating with as, of course, I’ve been attacked by the right, but now I’ve been fending off the authoritarian left and I think this is where the whole “horseshoe theory” really comes from. It’s just authoritarianism.
I today’s world, I will judge the capacity of anyone who think “both candidates are the same” in any elections. We have seen in real time how rights conquered through decades can be destroyed in a matter of months
I was thinking about those red states where they’re now eliminating the last remaining black districts. In so many red states the real election is the Republican primary, since whoever wins that will win the general no matter how abhorrent they are. So why don’t all the now effectively-disenfranchised voters start voting in the Republican primary for the least-awful Republican? I can’t imagine the reaction of Louisiana Republicans if busloads of elderly black people started showing up to “their” primary after church on Sunday.
That might actually make a difference between a true MAGA loyalist who will vote as Dear Leader directs him to do at all times, and, someone who in fact will not manifest 11,780 votes for Trump if they aren’t actually there to be found.
Even the current congressional Republicans have their factions who take offense to Trump portraying himself as Jesus, or conjuring a slush fund of $1.776 billion, or giving himself, his family and his businesses permanent amnesty from tax audits.
I was thinking about those red states where they’re now eliminating the last remaining black districts.
The folks here should go tell these people that elections accomplish nothing.
