Chat Control is not dead. The EU (still) wants to scan your private messages and photos
The “Chat Control” proposal would legalise scanning of all private digital communications, including encrypted messages and photos. This threatens fundamental privacy rights and digital security for all EU citizens.
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I’m completely pro chat control. To make it more accepted, we just need to show that it’s a good idea and lead by example! That’s why I propose, to completely publish all communications of our politicians and those that they communicate with. This content trove will be reviewed with AI* to make sure that there are no bad guys hiding in the government, right? As always, if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear!
* AI - Audience Interest: every one of us is free to analyze everything and publish and discuss their findings publicly.
/s?
How is it possible to get parties into power that put this into law?
Just lobby and bribe harder than those guys that want to see Chat Control happening ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Last time they pushed for this, the politicians planned to exempt themselves from the surveillance they’d force on everyone else:
I really wish there was some sort of rule that stated that if your proposal failed it gets blacklisted for the next 10 years, regardless of the framing of the proposal.
Wouldn’t work either as they are -very obviously here- just ignoring the rules anyway.
If they can ignore it it’s not a rule.
No, it just means that there is noone to enforce it.
A rule that isn’t enforced is a rule that doesn’t exist. No matter how many words are written on a paper.
The price of liberty is eternal vigilance…, but fuck, every goddamn year?
More than that! Last time was in October/November it i remember correctly
Gorram, seemed nearby. There needs to be protection against lobbyists (could stop here) pushing the same crap that got shot down already, again and again. Throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks is for bluesky development, not governance.
Ffs, the world is collapsing and we talk about this kind of shit…again.
The more unstable the world becomes, the more frequent and aggressive moves towards authoritarianism will be.
They will push until it eventually goes through. I’m in the tinfoily prepation mode, better get a head start than act surprised in a few years when this finally passes.
This kinda shit makes me glad we left. Then I look at our own government, it’s just as bad!
Sorry but the UK is still like 10x worse even if Chat Control would pass.
Yeah, the UK adopted 1984 as an instruction manual ages ago. I last visited it almost 20 years ago, but even then, the level of public surveillance alone was already ridiculous.
Fuck sake, it has been told time and time again that this is a bad idea!
How do they plan to get past encryption?
They will make it illegal, or they will force mandatory backdoors into it. It will be hacked within days, and they will blame “left wing extremism.”
Probably mandatory scanning on device before encryption. Will destroy all privacy focused apps.
In this case, privacy-focused apps would just not implement it, as it’s the voluntary chat control “1.0” which we already had before. Of course, it would probably be used to eventually have another go at the mandatory scanning again.
Good ol’ moving the overton window.
Yes, I’m a bit less worried about chat control “1.0” as it at least still allows one to choose services that don’t participate (I seem to recall reading somewhere that no encrypted services actually reported anything under 1.0 but have no source for it). Of course it is still not good.
Biggest problem is that they are also discussing chat control 2.0 that would force privacy focussed apps to basically shut down or comply.
You’ll only have privacy if everyone you talk to also uses a private server and a noncompliant client app that’s relatively hard to get. The chances are that your carefully encrypted texts just get scooped up after decryption at the other end. And if they get it built into mobile OSs so that apps can’t bypass it, even that won’t work.
I guess the only solution then would be to set up your own server with Nextcloud, Matrix etc.
The easiest would be to let the OS grab the keys of every connection and transmit them to the government.
For everybody with their own OS, they can use the backdoors on the chips to get the keys.
Or just make life unpleasant for you because you use a different OS, maybe by adding you to a terrorism list.
