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Premadekrill(She/Her) ( premadekrill@lemmy.blahaj.zone )  to LGBTQ+@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 months ago

Steam Reportedly Blocks LGBTQ+ Game Tag In China, Following Similar Censorship In Russia

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Steam Reportedly Blocks LGBTQ+ Game Tag In China, Following Similar Censorship In Russia

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Steam Seemingly Blocks LGBTQ+ Tag In China After Similar Censorship In Russia
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Shortly after reprimanding a dev for selling queer games in Russia, Steam has reportedly restricted the LGBTQ+ tag in China.
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  • homes ( homes@piefed.world ) 
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    “All Steam Games With LGBTQ+ Content Blocked From Release in China and Russia Due to Local Bigorty Laws Limiting Such Content”

    Funny how rearranging a few words can shift blame around. Thanks, Fascist propagandists, and their collaborators.

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      I think putting (edit: some of) the heat on Valve here is reasonable. If they had a principled stance on being pro-LGBTQ+, they might refuse to sell any games in those regions. But they are choosing instead to let the lgbtq+ folks take the hit so that they can continue to rake in the big bucks from those regions.

      Obviously I wouldn’t actually expect an enormous capital driven machine like Valve to do something like that, but its just an extra nudge on the gauge of my opinion of them as a company

      • TheBlackLounge ( TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip ) 
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        Are you okay with losing all your Steam games once your country also passes such a law?

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          I’d cheer valve on for taking a principled stance against bigotry in my country while personally grieving the loss of my steam library.

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            I doubt it’ll make a difference. Also almost all my LGBTQ friends are huge gamers. It’s an escape, and often provides online community. And I’m in a very liberal country and they still need it here. Can’t imagine the need for it in China or Russia. Whether that’s healthy is a big question, but the rug pull definitely won’t be.

            • apotheotic (she/her) ( apotheotic@beehaw.org ) 
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              I guess there’s an argument to be made for just stopping selling games in those regions while keeping access to existing libraries

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                That’s a looot of users they’d need to support without seeing any money from them. Might be worth it if they expect the laws to be temporary.

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              Be a good little fedi, put your money where you mouth is and get ready to sacrifice. Jesus Christ, 'waahhhhh, I’d have to start stealing my games '.

              Jesus Christ the second valve gets involved you all become spinless DNC cunts.

              • TheBlackLounge ( TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip ) 
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                Yeah so this isn’t about me. It’s about millions of lonely kids. Plenty will learn to pirate. Many won’t. I’m sure we’d see an uptick in suicides.

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                  🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌👍

        • makeshift0546 ( makeshift0546@lemmy.today ) 
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          Be a good little fedi, put your money where you mouth is and get ready to sacrifice. Jesus Christ, 'waahhhhh, I’d have to start stealing my games '.

          Jesus Christ the second valve gets involved you all become spinless DNC cunts.

          • Cleisthenian ( Cleisthenian@lemmy.ml ) 
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            You really thought you were onto something here didn’t you? You posted it multiple times

            • makeshift0546 ( makeshift0546@lemmy.today ) 
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              No it was just easier to c+v than your another sentence to describe your brain dead behaviors 🤷‍♂️

              Now go simp a company who would gladly put a dollar before your rights.

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        Steam didn’t make the decision, China and Russia did

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          Steam is making a decision by continuing to do business in regions that made those decisions

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          In the case of China, Steam very much made this decision on their own, or received bad advice and did so.

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          But they happily obeyed the orders of Russia and China.
          Why do you run cover for a face- and soulless corporation like Valve?

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      Simp

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    Fuck valve and the gamers who simp for Gabe. One man can change this if he wasn’t a greedy cunt.

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      I think Fuck China and Fuck Russia would be more useful responses to this.

      Different countries have different laws, should not be a surprise. If you want to make business there you follow the laws. Same as the reason why mobiles now all have USB-C, laws in the EU. Or why you can decline to have your data collected (if any website doesn’t just ignore your choice) because of Laws in some country.

      Is it terrible that a country is violating, what we consider human rights? yes.

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        Fuck you. God forbid valve make less money and not sell games where they are knowingly supporting this fuckery. Fuck Gabe, fuck Valve, fuck the stupid gamers that will continuously mindlessly supporting him buying more yachts, and fuck you for trying to defend his behavior. Gaymer class traitor.

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          Removed by mod

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            Fuck you.

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    Oh, I hate Gaben/Steam/Valve for this crap! Just don’t follow these stupid “laws” and get blocked. Then allow people from these countries to change country in their profiles. People in China and Russia use VPN ether way.

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    Once again, eat the rich. Until not everybody is free, no one is free.

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    I’ve got no problem here. It might’ve only been temporarily blocked. LGBTQ+ stuff isn’t illegal in China, just porn. Unfortunately for steam most games with the LGBTQ+ tag also have the NSFW or Hentai tags, which are blocked.

    But searching with the LGBTQ+ tag seems to work at this point.

    • apotheotic (she/her) ( apotheotic@beehaw.org ) 
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      Yet the LGBTQ+ content in Guild Wars 2 was still stripped out in China :/

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        I’m not able to find any information on that, can you post a source? The closest I’ve found is GW2 just censoring LGBTQ+ content globally.

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          Its been a while so I’m rusty but I found this reddit link from the time

          https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/tawl48/the_scene_of_jory_and_kas_at_the_end_of_eods/

          • marxismtomorrow ( marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today ) Banned from community
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            Weird that thread’s no longer there on Tieba, but since I don’t play the game and can’t find any other reference I’ll assume it’s real. Foreign companies do tend to get the weirdest advice to pass NPPA and they were a lot more strict in order to encourage domestic competition even just a few years ago, like the ‘skulls’ censorship in blizzard games.

            I can say safely though there are plenty of Chinese made NPPA approved games with LGBT representation, just like there are plenty of skulls.

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              I’ll have to take your word for it :3

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    I mean, I guess it’s better than all of Steam being blocked like it has been in the past. Not really their fault. Gaming is really frowned on my the Chinese government in general since it’s harder to control the subject matter than with videos that can just be scanned for key words and blocked or edited. But sucks that they even have an LGBTQ+ classification at all. Even if it may have originally been to help LGBTQ+ people find inclusive media, it’s obvious that those kinds of things are always used for censorship more than inclusivity. The flags should instead be on the anti-LGBTQ+ content, not regular, inclusive of real society content.

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