HA! Amateurs.
Tool steel screw and mild steel bit.
You don’t need to insult the guy!
Is that how drillbits are born?
*shorn
Chinesium
The flextools drill is fine, their bits - not so much. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Use better screws, don’t screw around.
Quit screwing around! You all screw around too much!
I was going to say “don’t screw up”.
Or the right size screwdriver and apply force down onto the screw as you turn
Hex screws are pretty good, I’ve never had one strip out
They do but you have to really work at it. I see them all the time as set screws on the fans in commercial ovens. Leave a set screw in an oven for years and that bastard will be so profoundly sized that you can round out even a hex screw.
Phillips head are the Mercator Projection of screws. Great for their specific purpose that shockingly few people seem to know and bottom tier otherwise, yet widely used anyway.
Which one in your opinion is the best general purpose screw? Basically something that should be the default?
I use #8 x 2-3in Robertson construction screws for pretty much everything. been doing this for over a decade. hasn’t failed me yet
there are times that a pan head is more suitable or you want a smaller screw, but I just buy the giant buckets of thousands of construction screws and then don’t have to think about buying more. and it’s 1/4 the cost as smaller packages
Interesting. Is it open source? Licensed? Patented by anyone? Sorry, I know nothing about screws, but it feels like a good rabbit hole haha.
My philosophy of screwing is that it is always best to find the right screw for the job, BUT, more often than not, a torx/star 2-1/2in #8-10 ceramic coated screw is going to solve all your problems.
Torx is great until you can’t really see the bolt in question and think you have the right bit but actually it’s slightly small and rounds off the bolt entirely.
It is a good idea in general though.
Torx plus is different than torx in that the tips are thicker which makes the rounding off much harder to do
Finally! Somebody who’s not a simp for Robertson.
All this love for Robinson and Torx and im just here with Posidrive…
Everyone in here hating on philips head screws when old slot head screws are the true enemy.
Slot heads never wear out.
Torx are the enemy.
Probably a bit extreme, but I do love torx screws. First choice for any project I start for sure.
Start buying Robertson, there’s no reason to use Torx at all except to piss off whomever has to deal with that project after you.
That must be regional. No one where i live has anything that works with Robinson
I fucking hate torx. The bits snap too often because they don’t cam out. Get some arm strength and keep your bit straight and phillips works great
Or get about half a brain and just don’t over tighten your torx screws until they snaps
At least you didn’t leave the toolkit in the rain and almost burn the house down by leaving the soldering iron plugged in for a week.
Yes, I’m still alive.
And yes, I used a Phillips screwdriver in JIS and vice versa multiple times.
And yes, I used a Phillips screwdriver in JIS and vice versa multiple times.
Our new screwdrivers have Phillips tips that meet JIS standards
New; not 40 years old. But I mostly use my relatively new toolkit now, so I’m pretty much fine.
The important bit is further down
Our Phillips tips follow the ISO 8764-1 standard, which is compatible with the JIS standard B 4633. In fact, of the three main standards, ASME, ISO, and JIS, the least strict standard is JIS. As shown below, the JIS dimensions almost all fall within the ASME or ISO acceptable dimensions. Therefore, any Phillips screwdriver, such as our new Tekton Phillips screwdrivers, can be made to meet JIS standards. In fact, you should expect that all well-made drivers that meet the ASME or ISO standards will also meet the JIS standard.
But yes, this doesn’t make clear if this has changed over time.
Wow, should have read it.
Robertson (square) is the best.
Americans just don’t know how to screw.
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Yes, Apple, a company founded in 1976, invented torx in 1967.
You may be thinking of Apple’s Pentalobe screws, which are inferior to torx and have no real business existing.
Americans will do anything to avoid admitting Robertson was earlier, better, and easier to make.
JIS!!!
And when some person inevitably uses a phillips on it, it will look like the picture above.
Why does this exist. Nobody has the driver for it. I could barely find a full size torx I needed for my car.
Alternatively everyone has the driver for it…
Given they are eventually putting the furniture together. It’s just they never get it apart but frankly that’s a problem for future me
JIS is only good for being cheap, and only works if you’re a precision robot. You lose the autocentering and overtorque protection of Phillips, without gaining any of the advantages of Torx. (Phillips has overtorque protection in the sense that your tool doesn’t break, the screw does; which doesn’t matter if you don’t need to unscrew it.)
The last time this thread came up there were some convincing comments suggesting that the over torque protection for philips was not an intended feature.
I thought the whole “JIS is different from Phillips” thing was a misunderstanding and JIS is just a type of Phillips or something and it and “regular” Phillips are more or less compatible
Edit I found this: https://www.tekton.com/blog/jis-vs-phillips-screwdriver-tip-geometry-and-fastener-compatibility
I have this iFixit guide as my source: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Choosing+the+Right+Screwdriver+Bit/93991#s176809 According to that, the JIS screws have orthogonal inner angles, while the Phillips’ are rounded, resulting in the slipping bits. However, some Phillips screwdrivers fill out that space, and thus won’t fully go into a JIS screw, and effectively be too small, stripping it.
Newer drive heads have been invented since then
Use a battery drill with a torque limiter?
You can definutely put a torque limiter on your hands.
Why are they called after the brand of a kitchen blender, anyway? I call it a “plus head”
I try so hard not to overtighten them but always fail
