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“too literal” is inherently subjective. Too literal to whom? What if my friends group is also neurodivergent as fuck, does this invalidate me then because it’s the new neurotypical?
I conclude that we need tests for what’s usually thought off as “normies”. If they know about their rhetorical precision deficits surely they can get therapy to solve that issue and integrate better into society.
I’ve been told many times I’m too literal. They are wrong, I am appropriately literal. However, it is something people tell me.
Same! I can exaggerate and make jokes just fine, I just usually am being serious because i’m focused on the task at hand
Enough that people tell you that you’re too literal.
But also, this isn’t an age or disagree question, it’s a does this happen question.
but it literally is “agree to disagree” tho. If they didn’t want it to be, they should’ve used those words! 😤
but what about people who don’t even have irl social interaction?
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Psrhaps other team’s programmer has learned to just smile and nod with that particular manager?
Yeah, it should present a statement, that could be interpreted literally or not, and then ask you to select the closest response to what you initially interpreted, or something like that. I guess that could encounter a lot of error with different cultures and education though.
I was getting my flu vaccine the other day and the nurse asked me why I checked “I don’t know” in response to the question “Is the patient sick?”
She seemed genuinely annoyed when I told her that the only two truthful answers to “Are you sick?” are “Yes” and “I don’t know”.
If the question had asked “Is the patient showing any symptoms of illness?” it would have been a different story, but I answered the question as asked.
I’ve had some of my family get annoyed at me for a similar thing lol. If someone asks me if I’d do something in a hypothetical scenario, I basically always answer with “probably” or “probably not”. I just feel like no matter how certain I feel I would do something in some given situation that I’ve never experienced, I can’t know 100% unless it were to actually happen, so answering as if I’m sure would be incorrect of me.
i went in for a surgery a couple of years ago. receptionist asks if I’ve had covid. i say i don’t know. receptionist looks at me like im trying to be funny. i specify that i haven’t had symptomatic covid. receptionist asks me again if I’ve had covid. my partner tells me to stop being difficult. receptionist rolls their eyes. as far as i was aware you can have covid without symptoms, so i really think answering ‘no’ is dangerously arrogant. or at least foolishly naive.
My trick for this is to replace “I don’t know” with “not to my knowledge” or “not as far as I know”.
Same sentiment, but much less pushback from others.
Saying that and adding a small smile and a quick laugh does wonders
That’s why assessment is done by professionals who can interpret your answers, not online quizzes
Sometimes the professionals also give you quizzes just like this.
Ask me how i know
Standardized quizzes written by professionals, even.
This is probably America, professionals are expensive. Quizzes are free.
Unironically, when I did my tests, I did complain to my psychologist about how some questions were “too open for interpretation”
Because they are, dammit. I remember taking a test that had like 50 questions and it seemed like I’d answer every single one of them differently if it provided more context in one way or the other.
There were two questions far away from each other probing for readiness to use violence which I thought would make an for odd result because I answered them “differently”. I filled in some more missing context, what else are you supposed to do to find an answer?
Well, apparently that just turned out to make my result unreliable.
The actual purpose of those questions has two parts, one is to check if your answers make sense (in polling you reject responses with too many contradictions), and the other is to check strength of an opinion
I told my psychologist that the questions/answers were constructed so poorly that I had started to suspect that the real test was whether or not I would complain about them.
Seriously, why do these assessments always say “People tell me [blank]”? I can speak about my own experiences! I don’t need someone to narrate my behavior like a sitcom!
Like I get that they’re trying to understand how you behave around other people, not how you behave in your own head, but at least phrase it as “People tell me or I believe people think I am [blank]”; because that’s how I’m forced to answer these questions anyways.
People can misjudge themselves for a number of reasons. For instance, it’s common for people to downplay certain traits they perceive as negative or rarely give much thought.
“Are you too literal?” - “Not often, less than 4/10 times”;
“How often do people around you tend to consider you too literal?” - “Like 8/10 times”
In that case just ask a question and judge it off the literalness
“If your life had a narator, would it tell you that…”
Some people think autism means taking everything literally but that’s actually kleptomania
Autism tests are useless because I can already see which are the autistic answers and can manipulate the results either way.
Isn’t that true to an extent for all mental health quizzes? The question rather is, why would you want to manipulate the test? Usually it is in the persons best interest to answer as honestly as possible
It is, I once manipulated an IQ test by giving all the correct answers.
2D chess
😂
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I believe IQ are made in such a way thire are no correct answers.
You didn’t tag that ragebait
Why would you?
All online tests are basically
Test: from 1 to 5, how much X do you feel?
You: 4/5
Test results: You are 75% X
You: so true
You can always tell immediately which question confirms your preconceptions, so you can never answer genuinely. It’s all confirmation bias.
This is all amplified by the fact that if you are taking the test, you already think that you are the thing in the test (in this case, autistic).
P.S. this includes mbti tests. Don’t let their sciency looks deceive you. It’s all confirmation bias, all fake.
Myers Briggs is complete pseudoscience, if it helps. Literally nonsense made up whole cloth by some mother and daughter
You mean astrology for MBAs?
I’m confused. Why would you bring up astrology for astrologists? Of course astrologist study astronomy
Part of the reason my therapist diagnosed me was because, when running a test like this, I was constantly asking questions to get clarification for the questions of the test because I couldn’t answer them correctly because of this.
Probably around 8th or 9th test question, my therapist was already certain of my diagnosis.
Same thing happened with me, and I think that’s where the actual strength of the test is. You need a professional who can observe how you interact with it to really get a proper assessment. If you just do it on your own you’re not going to get out of it an accurate assessment.
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It kinda sounds like you’re just good at masking tbh
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oh btw, i was reading some legal texts yesterday (as a hobby) and it’s surprisingly easy to read for me. yes, it’s all convoluted language; but at least it’s precise and clear. no swampy vague language.
so it’s actually easier to digest than many small-talk conversations that i’ve had.
In which country do you find clear and defined legal texts? I was inder the impression such texts were kept intentionally vague so the executioner can sway either way, deoending where the money sits. (Especially laws, but I realize law texts are just a small subset of legal texts)
You’re thinking consumer sales contracts by scummy companies. There’s plenty of very precise legal texts available. Business to business contracts where both sizes have good lawyers, for example
The German laws that I’ve had the pleasure of reading were pretty clear. Examples are eKFV and LuftVO (no translations available).
what you said is basically true in the US; but in german-speaking areas, legal texts are perfect for people with autism. just clear, defined terms; meaningful sentence structure; getting to the point. no ambiguity, no vagueness, no bullshit (mostly).
From Belgium, but OK. Glad to hear Germany got their things together 😊
Autism test: Look at this picture of a face, what is this person thinking?
Me, an experienced masker: You can’t tell what a person is thinking from their face, they expend a lot of effort keeping their face in a socially acceptable position to hide their true feelings.
This is always what makes me a little unsure of if I have autism. Cause I have very little trouble understanding a person’s feeling from their facial expression. Admittedly I am self-diagnosed, but I also know it’s a spectrum so there’s gotta be a few outliers who don’t struggle with this, right?
I had a test with a short movie, cut scene by scene and each time they asked to explain what happend and what did were thinking. I thought I did good on it, but apparently I didn’t, just too autistic to know.
The most “fun” ones are the control questions askinging you exactly the opposite of something you’ve been already asked.
Except inversion also reverses subtext so your honest answer has to be different than just the opposite of the previous answer you have. But if the two answers are not a perfect mirror, you might trigger too many control questions and not get diagnosed. What should you do? AAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Am I autistic? Regardless of how literally you feel you take statements, I still want to know whether people complain to you about you being “too literal” because I want to know if it is affecting your interpersonal relationships. If I wanted to know whether you feel you take things literally, I would add that as a separate question? Please don’t project subtext on this, I actually want to know the answer to the actual question I’m actually asking you?
This is you on the autism scale:
Fuck yea, trains are cool as hell
Denver & Rio Grande moment
If you assault the tester then it confirms your diagnosis.
I don’t like violence, may I salt the tester instead?
That seems way easier than answering 50 stupid questions. Verbally. To a person I don’t even know.
The “people tell me I’m X” type questions on shit like this always annoy me because like, what exactly are you trying to gauge with this question? Are you trying to determine what I’m like, or are you trying to determine what other people’s perception of me is? The way it’s worded would denote the latter but I’m not sure that’s in actuality what they’re going for. In any case, I don’t typically have people regularly telling me “you’re so [personality trait]” so most of the time if I answer honestly then the answer will usually be “completely disagree” but then that probably skews the test towards an inaccurate result if what they’re really trying to determine is “are you [personality trait]?”
