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ooli3 ( ooli3@sopuli.xyz )  to Map Enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz · 2 months ago

Most popular country for young Europeans (18-34) to emigrate to

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Most popular country for young Europeans (18-34) to emigrate to

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ooli3 ( ooli3@sopuli.xyz )  to Map Enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz · 2 months ago
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  • csolisr ( csolisr@hub.azkware.net ) 
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    This makes me wonder how does the graph diagram wind up looking like. Most nodes seem to end in a Germany-Switzerland-France loop

    • csolisr ( csolisr@hub.azkware.net ) 
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      And then there’s the edge case of England going literally outside of the continent, with Australia

      • WhoIzDisIz ( WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today ) 
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        The other side of the world: for when you really need to get as far away from it all as you can.

        • eleijeep ( eleijeep@piefed.social ) 
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          They took away our right to live in Europe. I imagine things would be very different for British 18-34 year olds had that not happened.

      • JustEnoughDucks ( JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ) 
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        That’s because Brits would rather move to the literal other side of the globe where everything wants to kill you than learn a second language.

        • csolisr ( csolisr@hub.azkware.net ) 
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          That makes a lot of sense - but if that were all there was to it, wouldn’t most of the emigration go to the fellow Commonwealth member, Canada?

    • berber ( berber@feddit.org ) 
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      sorry to be nitpicky, but it’s only a 2-cycle, switzerland and france. but most of the countries get there via germany.

      it would be interesting to look at the induced directed acyclic graph of the original graph’s connected components.

    • julianwgs ( julianwgs@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      Most popular coloring is deceiving: It could mean 90% emigrate to that country or 10% do. Also this map totally neglects how many stay in that country.

      To visualize the data completely (not on a map unfortunately) one could choose a chord diagram.

  • Techlos ( Techlos@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    i’m seeing three dominant patterns: the aussie funnel, the nordic maelstrom and the franco-swiss oscillator.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness ( NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io ) 
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      Germany really hard-carrying the Franco-Swiss oscillator.

    • ARMADILLOMANIA ( ARMADILLOMANIA@lemmy.today ) 
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      Also one megatrend pattern that seem to lead away from Russia.

  • rumschlumpel ( rumschlumpel@feddit.org ) 
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    For once, Germany is popular!

    • WhoIzDisIz ( WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today ) 
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      A bit too popular, as all the culture clash & other associated problems are giving right-wing extremists ammunition for their bullshit. At least so it seems to this distant American who lived there for several years decades ago.

      Edit: sorry for my uninformed guess. I honestly have only very loosely paid attention to what’s going on over there as there’s more than enough BS at home drawing my attention. I just hate to hear of my favorite childhood place having similar problems.

      • rumschlumpel ( rumschlumpel@feddit.org ) 
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        IME, people from slavic countries aren’t really responsible for most of the culture clashes. Far-righters are mostly complaining about muslims and black africans, i.e. groups that are much more visible and far more culturally different.

        Also, I’m not a fan of appeasement. IMO few would care about the far right if people didn’t have to deal with more tangible issues like absurd real estate prices, declining quality of social security systems + healthcare and the national government’s brazen corruption. Plus, massive online propaganda.

        • WhoIzDisIz ( WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today ) 
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          Good point. I’m only loosely aware of what’s going on over there, and honestly haven’t really put much thought into it. I just hate to see yet another piece of cherished childhood memories going down the tubes.

      • 5715 ( 5715@feddit.org ) 
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        No, it is the inaction of politicians in general that is giving those people ammunition (figuratively and literally).

        • WhoIzDisIz ( WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today ) 
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          Ahhh, sorry to hear they’ve contracted a bad case of Americanitis.

      • belluck ( belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        The regions where the far right is most popular are also the regions with the least immigrants.

  • Lantsu ( manuremy@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    I live in Finland and we’re looking to moving into Sweden or Norway… It’s rough here. Everything is expensive, can’t get or afford healthcare, no jobs… We just want a little house and some simple jobs to barely sustain or little family, and to be able to go to the doctor if sick. Not possible in Finland at the moment or in the near future.

    • Swedneck ( Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      well don’t go to sweden expecting better healthcare, the previous right wing government has been very busy ruining everything with privatization.

      • mirshafie ( mirshafie@europe.pub ) 
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        They have and it sucks but we still have decent health care. It’s just that the overhead is increasingly siphoned off to some tax haven.

      • Lantsu ( manuremy@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        It might still be better compared to not getting any… It’s not like we need help every week and so on. I got lots of family in Northern Sweden, and they all just say it’s all good and they get easily what they need and even can go to specialists fast. (Yes, on public side.)

        • Swedneck ( Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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          not sure you want to use northern sweden as a good example, considering how there have been news articles about people having to drive for hours to give birth in a hospital because their local one closed…

          • Lantsu ( manuremy@sopuli.xyz ) 
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            I live in Northern Finland and the situation is the same or even worse here. Anything is an improvenement. I’m, we’re, not looking for perfection, just something livable.

  • Airfried ( Airfried@piefed.social ) 
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    Most well educated young adults who emigrate do so for better wages. Shocker.

  • Albbi ( albbi@piefed.ca ) 
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    Russians to Kazakhstan? Is this voluntary emigration?

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      It’s because they’re the number one exporter of potassium

    • captcha ( captcha@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ) 
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      I would guess it was very different before the war started, but I can’t find a good source nor for this, neither for pre-2022 stats. Now there are at least some companies that moved to Kazakhstan because it was a relatively easy move

  • Zacryon ( Zacryon@feddit.org ) 
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    Data source plz.

    • rumba ( rumba@lemmy.zip ) 
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      A poll of 50 students

      /s

  • CandleTiger ( CandleTiger@programming.dev ) 
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    What is the link between Portugal and Switzerland?

    • vorpuni ( vorpuni@tarte.nuage-libre.fr ) 
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      Highest salaries in Europe and possibly the world for construction workers.

  • Gobbel2000 ( Gobbel2000@programming.dev ) 
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    Which one is it for Slovenia?

    • majster ( majster@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Austria would make sense

      • Sina ( Sina@beehaw.org ) 
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        It’s probably Italy actually.

  • Jade ( JadedBlueEyes@programming.dev ) 
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    Brits on their way to leave the continent:

  • WorldsDumbestMan ( WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ) 
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    Oh 34 is young now huh?

    • whotookkarl ( whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      It is about 10 years younger than the average age in Europe

    • belated_frog_pants ( belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org ) 
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      I mean it is

  • Furbag ( Furbag@pawb.social ) 
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    My wife has a friend who is a German-born Swiss resident and yeah this map checks out.

  • Matty Roses ( mattyroses@lemmy.today ) 
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    There do seem to be quite a few Italians in Barcelona currently

  • Sunshine ( Sunshine@piefed.ca ) 
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    This is why they call Aussies, crazy sunny Brits.

    • resipsaloquitur ( resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe ) 
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      Mad dogs and Englishmen.

  • gasgiant ( gasgiant@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Ah all those young European English people emigrating to Australia.

    We left. Please exclude us from this sort of European nonsense.

    • antianarchist ( antianarchist@sopuli.xyz ) deleted by creator
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      You left Europe, the subcontinent? How did you manage?

      Or are you confusing it with the European Union, the political system?

      • gasgiant ( gasgiant@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Are you confusing the land mass of England as being part of the European continent with the residents of England as being European?

        Suggest you reread the post title. This is about young Europeans. Which unfortunately young English people aren’t anymore.

        • antianarchist ( antianarchist@sopuli.xyz ) deleted by creator
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          By definition, even England is part of the subcontinent Europe. You can’t just leave Europe by voting.

          Brexit, what you are probably referring to, affected the membership of the EU. That one you left, correct.

    • sem ( sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      They really need to switch the New Zealand flag to the fern one so people can tell them apart

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        I would have thought the fact that the Aussie one has white stars (as in this map) and the New Zealand one has red stars made it clear enough already.

        Still seems to confuse you though.

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          I don’t see them both named and together often enough to notice that they have different colors, but maybe I’ll remember it after this interaction.

          I still like the fern better though.

    • kazerniel ( kazerniel@piefed.world ) 
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      last time I checked, the British Isles weren’t a continent themselves, so we do belong to Europe 😅 (unless you’re trying to imply that we somehow belong to the Americas)

    • Enkrod ( Enkrod@feddit.org ) 
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      Brits in their mind literally rowing their little monkey-rock out into the Atlantic.

    • Axolotl ( Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ) 
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      Wait what, did y’all phisically moved the island away? Crazy shit, why i did not knew about it? Are newspapers even doing their work properly?

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