- nutomic ( @nutomic@lemmy.ml ) 7•2 years ago
So you can give some Swedish company access to all your web traffic. Great idea if you hate privacy. At least Tor can get some money this way.
- Rick Sanchad ( @Rickster@ieji.de ) 4•2 years ago
@nutomic @cypherpunks Who exactly do trust then comrade? I mean Swedish ISP Bahnhof has a very good reputation when it comes to end user privacy. They even hosted Julian Assanges Wikileaks server… But I mean just look at all the orwellian laws coming from Australia, America, England and the EU where do we go from here bro?? Chat Control, Investigatory powers act bill, Ass Access bill, Restrict Act bill, Chat control… D: World governments are making it hard to have any privacy anymore!
- Marius ( @mariubrlu@mastodonapp.uk ) 1•2 years ago
@Rickster @nutomic @cypherpunks As harder some pathetic governments are doing it to have some privacy and stop cancel culture, as faster we evolve towards alternative communication tools.
They can control even the whole internet. We will ditch this service and use mesh networks. Without us paying for the internet, the service will become obsolete.
- Rick Sanchad ( @Rickster@ieji.de ) 2•2 years ago
@mariubrlu @nutomic @cypherpunks Yeah I don’t care where we are politically we all need to unite against a centralised, nation state controlled & fully walled up internet… If we don’t take a united stand against extremely overly broad all encompassing powers that Western governments are trying to give themselves over the internet. We will become China, we are not far off the chopping block to becoming China and having their internet where all non government approved stuff is criminalised!
- Marius ( @mariubrlu@mastodonapp.uk ) 1•2 years ago
@Rickster @nutomic @cypherpunks I was just trying to bring some positive thoughts. Even in China the gvmt tried to crack down on protests by shutting down the internet in the area and the people used a mesh network to still be able to communicate.
- Marius ( @mariubrlu@mastodonapp.uk ) 1•2 years ago
@Rickster @nutomic @cypherpunks Of course that I play my part in fighting corruption in the establishment. I recently switched every single device in my home to open source auditable software and literally use 0 services from GAFAM. The thing is: if we don’t buy or use their products they will become obsolete. Also by using open source software you can’t be illegally spied as they can’t have access to your data.
- ᗪᗩᗰᑎ ( @KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml ) 4•2 years ago
If not this browser, which one should we use if we want privacy?
- altair222 ( @altair222@beehaw.org ) 1•2 years ago
Is the browser not open source? And hence a binary could be built for it to test and verify the degree of privacy to it?
- nutomic ( @nutomic@lemmy.ml ) 2•2 years ago
A VPN operator can intercept all the traffic by design. TOR avoids that by going over multiple hops, but this browser doesnt use TOR.
- altair222 ( @altair222@beehaw.org ) 2•2 years ago
The first thing i did upon installing the browser to test it is uninstall the VPN extention. Im very skeptical of the browser myself but im wondering how much grounds your argument against the browser holds. Wouldnt the open-source nature (and hence being able to create our own binaries) and the firefox base create a decent enough privacy experience? One could even scientifically test the telemetry with the right tools, right?
- nutomic ( @nutomic@lemmy.ml ) 3•2 years ago
If you disable the VPN then my previous argument doesnt apply. It would probably be more secure than normal Firefox, assuming you trust the developers.
- Po Kamnuandej ( @bkkcitypokey@lemmy.ml ) 7•2 years ago
I’ll stick with LibreWolf, thanks
- ailiphilia ( @ailiphilia@feddit.it ) English6•2 years ago
I just stumbled upon that, too, and am wondering how this compares to Librewolf (+VPN) …
- rhymepurple ( @rhymepurple@lemmy.ml ) English6•2 years ago
I’m wondering the same thing. Aside from encouraging people to use the default settings to make each user’s browser/session harder to properly fingerprint, I’m really curious what privacy benefits this new browser provides compared to alternatives like Librewolf, hardened Firefox, etc.
- ᗪᗩᗰᑎ ( @KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml ) English4•2 years ago
Looks like Mullvad has this regarding the changes being made in their browser: https://mullvad.net/nl/browser/hard-facts
- rhymepurple ( @rhymepurple@lemmy.ml ) English1•2 years ago
Thanks, this is really helpful! Didn’t notice it previously.
- Ephera ( @Ephera@lemmy.ml ) English4•2 years ago
From what I’ve heard in the past, Mozilla is doing a good job upstreaming work from the Tor Browser devs and putting it behind an about:config value, if they don’t use it in Firefox. So, assuming your hardened Firefox uses the right config values and browser extensions, there should be relatively few differences…
- Marius ( @mariubrlu@mastodonapp.uk ) 3•2 years ago
@Ephera @rhymepurple No. Privacy by option is worse than no privacy at all. Non technical people would install firefox because they read somewhere that it safe, but ultimately they would use it as it is thinking that is safe out of the box.
- Ephera ( @Ephera@lemmy.ml ) English2•2 years ago
@rhymepurple@lemmy.ml did specifically ask about hardened Firefox, which literally means Firefox with configuration changes to make it more secure.
Having said that, personally I do think Firefox’s default experience is close to the best you can do for people that really just want to install without thinking about it.
Going beyond that quickly results in broken webpages. And broken webpages require that you know what you’re doing, so you can unbreak them, if needed.
- sgtnasty ( @sgtnasty@lemmy.ml ) English1•2 years ago
I cant get user scripts to work with it.
- lemming_7765 ( @lemming_7765@lemmy.ml ) English3•2 years ago
IINM, you shouldn’t that because it would defeat the purpose of this browser, which is to maintain the same fingerprint for everybody.
- sgtnasty ( @sgtnasty@lemmy.ml ) English1•2 years ago
that’s what I figured, just wish it said something about it