They’re not worth anything, never were but even less through the years with inflation.
If a store wants to sell something for 99 cent, they can either just take 1€ or 95 cent.
Maybe even 5 cent pieces? But that would be a bit radical.
I am a bit annoyed that easy ideas like this are never discussed in politics, or wherever. It would make our lives just a little bit easier, and having them achieves NOTHING.
I am all for it. Though here in Germany it would probably give quite a number of people a heart attack not being able to pay an exact amount to the cent.
I feel called out.
No, seriously. Last season I bought some plums from my Turkish greengrocer, he put them on the scales which said 1.01 Euro which he commented with “one Euro”. I gave him 1.01 Euro, and got a “can you believe those Almans” look.
Now that’s good German humor.
Come on now, you know you can only have one at a time. So is it German, or is it humor?
Correct and yes. :D
They could by paying with card.
Lol. Have you been to Germany? IF you can pay with a card, it has to be a specific card, not everyone accepts credit cards.
They could pay with card, but it’s something special here with many of the old folks and cash. Part of the ancient shopping ritual to put out the small coins and delay the queue as long as possible. Why? No idea, apart from “Das haben wir schon immer so gemacht!” (We always did it like this)
Well, cash has privacy by design. So I much prefer that to the American card provider monopoly.
Still convenient when traveling light, I just don’t want to rely on it. By regularly paying cash I incentivize the upkeep of the German cash infrastructure.
Austrian here, paying with cash and counting every single coin is still common here.
Part of the ancient shopping ritual to put out the small coins and delay the queue as long as possible. Why?
To get rid of the small coins, duh! Though I only do this when there is no queue. Hate to carry around a few red coins just for these occasions. Yes, get rid of them, please!
There are European countries that have no 1 and 2c coins (Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland, Finland). The prices are the same, when you buy something the sum is simply rounded up to the next 5 cents.
Works fine.
Here in NL the amount gets rounded to the nearest multiple of five, so for 1.92 you have to pay 1.90 in cash and 1.93 will become 1.95. This so on average you are not overpaying. Digital payments are always exact.
Get rid of them. I just throw the small coins in a box regularly. A couple if years ago I tried to get rid of them. I found out that my bank would not accept them so easily and when I tried to pay with rolls of cent coins, store owners would be pissed. What the hell am I supposed to do?
Self Checkout machines! take them!
Nooo! My poor Sparschwein will die of hunger :(
Some supermarkets have machines where you can just toss them all in and get a coupon you can use in the market. But I think they take a 5% cut or something, so not ideal.
It’s 9,9% for our local Rewe Coinstar.
We should have gotten rid of them some time ago.
Good riddance! I never use them, collect them and bring them to one of the few banks that still accept coins.
I only use them when I empty my wallet in a self checkout to get rid of them
Yep, I’m a big fan of the approach of getting rid of smaller coins and just rounding at the register. The Netherlands already do this and I don’t think anyone there misses the small coins.
Absolutely! I carry only a small wallet and hate coins in general. Totally could pass on 1 and 5 Cent coins. Throw them in a box at home (even 10 Cent coins) and have no idea on what to do with them. Brought them to a store once, but they would take 10% and you could only use the money in the store. Found a bank where you can bring them in for 5%, but you would have to roll them up yourself (definitely not gonna do their work and still give them 5%). Maybe I will put it in a chest and bury it somewhere in the forest near a playground so kids can go treasure hunting :D
Denmark did it too. Worked fine.
Children in elementary schools use coins as an example to learn calculating. They need the 1 cent coins. Is nobody here thinking about the children?
Well, they sure can learn with something else.
Woooosh
(the joke being that the adage is a trope at this point)
Aren’t there already some Euro-Countries that abolished 1 and 2 cent coins?
Just looked it up: Finland, Netherlands, Belgium, Italy and Ireland.
what happens if you pay 5 Cents with 5x1 cent from other countries in those countries?
I don’t know but I guess they still would have to accept them since they are still official currency.
I used to live in Finland for two years. The shop close by to my home wouldn’t accept 1 or 2 cents so I just put them in a drawer and never worried about it again. Don’t know if they are obliged to accept them.
I’m from Italy, most machines that take cash straight up don’t accept 1 and 2 cent coins and 500€ notes anymore, they’ll just spit them out. I don’t think I’ve ever paid a cashier with those, so I don’t know what the policy is, but I think they are allowed to refuse them. It’s still legal tender so banks will take them; I have a big jar at home where I collect all the small cents, I plan to take it to a bank once it’s full and see what I can buy with it (stonks). I can tell you that if you make an electronic payment you will pay the exact price, but if you’re paying in cash it will be rounded to the nearest .05.
Machines here in Austria also often don’t take 1/2ct and €500.
I haven’t seen them a lot lately in Austria…
Austria still totally uses 1/2ct coins. If you are one of the weirdos who still pays in cash, that is.
Why would be one a weirdo if they pay in cash?
Just a joke since hardly anyone in Austria actually pays in cash. It’s mostly something old people, criminals and politicians do.
In Germany, cash is still king 😭 I hate it. Problem that also only many stores take cash. In my district in Hamburg there is even a bike store where you can only pay cash. Recently I had to visit three restaurants until I found one where I could pay by card. The most annoying thing is that you can’t get cash anywhere. My bank (Commerzbank) or the association closes more and more branches. Thus, the ATMs are also missing. With foreign banks to withdraw money is really expensive. I get my money currently from the supermarket. But I have to buy for at least 10 euros to withdraw money. Germany is so annoying. When I was last on vacation in Scotland, I was able to pay even the toilet visit with card. That was so pleasant and easy. Currently, there are also more and more strange groups in our country (from the right-wing fringe, Querdenker) who see a conspiracy in a possible abolition of cash. “the so-called elites want to take us the cash to be able to control us better”.
This would annoy me so much. In Austria you can even pay by card on a farmers market.
It hasn’t been a thing in Ireland since 2015. We have a rounding system in place for cash transactions
Canada got rid of pennies (one-cent pieces) over 10 years ago. Now millennials can’t buy houses. Coincidence? ;)
I am in favour. But let’s go ever further and get rid of cash entirely.
Privacy and transactions without internet connection?
ECB is working on the “digital Euro” right now, and I’m almost completely sure it won’t enable offline payments, simple peer to peer transactions or even anonymous payments. It’s a real shame, because GNU Taler is interesting and the crypto should be explored further.
The 2020 report of the ECB actually states offline payments as a desired feature and to work overall “like cash”. Anonymous payments, however, are ruled out (money laundering bla bla, probably a rather weak argument considering Taler’s characteristics).
Okay, offline payments might work between a shop terminal and a customer, but what is as if not more important is the ability to easily give money to a friend privately, which I don’t see.
Did you see this in widespread use anywhere?
No, but I also didn’t see contactless payment methods being widely used until the pandemic.
Where do you live?
I could pay contactless almost anywhere before the pandemic. You might get weird looks at the bakery if it was like 2€, but that was it.
Germany. You could do card payments but only by sliding your card into a card reader. NFC payments were pretty much non-existent. Third world country 🫠
Thats just objectively not true. NFC payments have been rolled out slowly for years before the pandemic. It would have happened anyways, maybe the pandemic just gave it a little boost.
That sounds a bit harsh. Me and a couple of other people I know have used contactless payments even for quite some time before COVID. It was relatively simple to set up by linking your PayPal account to Google Pay if you had an Android phone. But I agree that contactless payments weren’t widely adopted by the general German population until 2020.
Hungary has in the recent past got rid of 1 and 2 HUF coins. Prices can still be XX99, only total transaction amounts have to be rounded according to official rounding laws, but only if in cash.
It works.
What are the rules for rounding?
If the price ends on 1 or 2 HUF, it goes down to the nearest ten, if it’s 3,4,6 or 7 it rounds to 5, if it’s 8 or 9 it goes up to the nearest ten.
No one really cares that much, as 1 HUF is worth around a third of a cent.
As a swiss person, I get surprised every time the price doesn’t automatically round to the next multiple of 5 cents when I’m in the EU. So yes, get rid of them.
As a swiss, you’re used to find it the first prices in Europe, not you don’t think about other economies.
There’s a comment in here from someone whose country recently switched to euros, and many small items there cost under 10 cents. Rounding down would make them free, rounding up doubles their price…
The measure is reasonable if the local economy is suited - Belgium and the Netherlands have been rounding bills for a good while now, but it’s not something that should be pushed from the European level.
Not that I said rounding bills - individual items are stille priced to the cent. When paying by card, you pay the exact total, but when paying cash it gets rounded to the nearest 5 cent.
I don’t have them when paying with my Amex… And if I have too much of them, I’m kindly asking at the drinks store if I can throw them into their coin counter for payment when not many customers are there. If everything fails I wait until I have 11800 one-cent coins or a mix with 2 cent to pay that €118 every 10 years for ID card and passport. Which astonishingly is machine-payable with One and Two-Cent coins.
If you need ways to get rid of them:
- gift them to me, :D Or I’ll PayPal it back to you.
- have a bank account at one of the old, expensive classical banks here in Germany, they usually take them. Don’t have the cheapest account there. Take their kind of all-inclusive account model.
- Go to your nearest “Deutsche Bundesbank” and take your foreign coins and banknotes with you, they have to exchange it for you as long as all the money you bring is or was valid payment money somewhere.
- supermarket self-service machines
- Get to your nearest Späti (in Berlin) or kiosk store and ask the owner if he needs 1 Cent coins. Some give a small discount for you being the person, making sure they’ll not get into trouble with missing 1 Cent coins. And some just trust that the thousands of coins you bring is roughly what you counted.
Avoid:
- Coinstar, 10+ % fee (or any other machine that’s not a self-service cash register)
- rush hour on counting machines not fully used as self-service – ask the store when it’s okay to come with so much money – those machines take some time to count your thousands of coins.
So in conclusion: Stores would want to do €,99 prices, because that’s why you can steal a whole other Euro for every item the customer grabs. Doing .95 would change that unless everyone does it or is forced to do that. Because the lobby from these businesses is too big, we will not see the 1-cent and 2-cent pieces disappear. Milk business will complain that they can’t afford selling at 4 cent less and all the others would just make everything + €1, so €1.99 becomes €2.95 and so on.
You shouldn’t force the economy to change prices if you don’t see them illegally changing prices. Because everything will be getting unnecessarily more expensive then. Enforced pricing should always be a price decrease.
Bundesbank didn’t do foreign currency last time I checked. But yes, they’ll exchange Euro coins for notes
fuck inflation
yes fuck inflation like the last few years, but “normal” inflation like a few percent never bothered me.